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205736.120 in reply to 205736.117
Date: 1/11/2012 9:37:12 AM
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So the BBs just created a skill called shotblocking and made it so crappy and expensive that there is no point in training it? They wanted people fool enough to try train it and miserably fail?
Hardly.
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205736.123 in reply to 205736.120
Date: 1/11/2012 9:59:52 AM
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So the BBs just created a skill called shotblocking and made it so crappy and expensive that there is no point in training it?

Yes,but it wasn't their will
They wanted people fool enough to try train it and miserably fail?

No,it wasn't their will,but the problem is that the effect of SB is not visible at the moment,and probably it's not visible because is too weak in general,and especially is too weak for the expenses that generate


Sb isn't more expensive than the other big man skills,the problem is that while everyone can appreciate the effect of higher IS,ID and REB on their big mans,the advantages of an higher Sb are minimal,and become negative when you sum this with the fact that SB is as expensive as IS,ID and Reb and you as manager have to optimize your economy
If someone can demonstrate with some evidences that SB is worth to be trained,I would easily accept it but these evidences actually doesn't exist,while only the negative aspects as the increased salary are clear

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205736.124 in reply to 205736.121
Date: 1/11/2012 10:05:01 AM
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Well, if that is what you understood from my posts, it certainly is not what I thought I said or the message I intended to convey. I never said to train SB without any cost effectiveness calculations at all. Hell, I dont even train SB!!!! But I also dont bitch about not being able to stop LI.....

You can call it optimistic imagination if you want, and Ill be forthcoming and say No, I have not tested it. But I trust in the analysis that has been going on in the USA community recently, and it shows a strong correlation between SB and stopping all driving shots, and a bit less so for SB stopping inside shots.

If you look at what I've said, I've maintained the entire time that SB is how you stop driving shots, and that it helps to a lesser extent on inside shots.

This is an argument to use in a civil conversation
Can you show us the study and the results that come up from it?It's always interesting to learn something new,but until you claim about the efficacy of Sb and 2-3 defence without showing us why you state this,we have to rely on our informations who says that training SB is not effective for a single player and for the team

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205736.125 in reply to 205736.12
Date: 1/11/2012 1:56:01 PM
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Because Dwight Howard is so good defensively (also because of his shot blocking skills), many NBA stars already claimed that they have to change their game when going against him. Even Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah were on that boat.

I don't see SB as a fix to the defense, but rather as a complimentary skill that makes you a better defensive player.

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205736.126 in reply to 205736.122
Date: 1/11/2012 2:38:42 PM
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I wouldnt call those questions drama but anyway. So only two university guys completely created this game on their own and then it came popular. Then they hired/got together a group of other BBs, worked the new GE and all...And youre saying that this new team around the first two BBs has not made a single change/fix to this game. So is that what youre saying?
rubbercube

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205736.127 in reply to 205736.123
Date: 1/11/2012 3:40:33 PM
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I understand that the creators of the game have made "mistakes" and stuff like that, but those have been (mostly) fixed and adjusted during the years, havent they? Even nowadays everything isnt perfetly in balance, but roughly, just about they are. I cannot understand a way, how SB would suck because BBs couldn't help it.
And when you ask for evidence about everything, youre kind of just crushing our "out of the box thinking" here. I think no-one can really prove much anything about SB here (atleast yet), but we're developing the idea.
rubbercube

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205736.128 in reply to 205736.125
Date: 1/11/2012 4:16:43 PM
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Because Dwight Howard is so good defensively (also because of his shot blocking skills), many NBA stars already claimed that they have to change their game when going against him. Even Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah were on that boat.


i love mind games. Off course SB is way to smash opponents mind, cool to see and cool to have. But this is not primary skill, this is small part of inside defence <- not sure to block the shot 100%, stay on foot and control rebound. Basketball is passionable and desperate game. All this drama for attendance.

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205736.129 in reply to 205736.128
Date: 1/11/2012 4:35:17 PM
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But this is not primary skill, this is small part of inside defence <- not sure to block the shot 100%, stay on foot and control rebound.

But as we (many people) can't stop LI, shouldn't we then atleast use every little parts of inside defence? I think, we should (if someone still didn't get my opinion :) )
rubbercube

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205736.130 in reply to 205736.129
Date: 1/11/2012 4:45:36 PM
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there are more important things to follow. just use outside def.=shot block and guards whu are not bunch of ballerinas (inside def.). game needs first real basketball players. SB is soooo tiny detail to focus soooo much.

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