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From: G_D

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208432.120 in reply to 208432.110
Date: 2/22/2012 6:19:14 PM
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It is not just big men that are cheap. I have seen/heard of muliple 100K SGs selling for around $600k. Almost any dummy now can create a killer team now as long as they have enough savings/income to pay them each week.


Yes now, they can now, can't they now, you should be ok then....now...

From: yodabig

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208432.121 in reply to 208432.120
Date: 2/22/2012 8:48:26 PM
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I am way too far down the path of quality cost effective players to change direction now. If I had just kept all my money I could easily buy a $1 million roster and smash everyone by 30 every week and promote again. But then what? Sell all the young players and train GS each week. Overpaid and underperforming roster that kicks butt in division II and gets beaten in the ABBL. Sounds like a recipe for going nowhere. The trouble is if a team is willing to do it it will be hard to stop them.

Last edited by yodabig at 2/22/2012 8:49:08 PM

From: G_D

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208432.122 in reply to 208432.121
Date: 2/22/2012 10:54:48 PM
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Sure, quality, cost effective players is the way to go...I would not call someone a 'dummy' for going the other way...They have surely earned their right to do it by keeping their money?

From: yodabig

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208432.123 in reply to 208432.122
Date: 2/22/2012 11:05:37 PM
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I wasn't saying that doing it that way makes them a dummy. They could be the best manager and smartest player in the game. However what I am saying is that anyone that has saved for a couple of seasons and has a good bank balance can get a killer team for very little cash with almost no planning right now. As long as you don't want forwards or guys under 32 you can get incredible players for close to nothing. It is really only the weekly salaries that are the issue now.

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Date: 2/22/2012 11:14:21 PM
Koopasaurus
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Lol there are not many abbl teams that have one million in salary. but everyone it's just one or two big man away from that magical one mil mark.

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208432.125 in reply to 208432.124
Date: 2/23/2012 12:11:14 AM
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That is correct. But just look at the low, low cost of players now. Especially old ones that only have primaries which is what 90% of players on the market seem to be. You can get a 100k PG for 400k, two 100k SG (one with some not horrid secondaries to play SF) for $400k and two $200k big men for less than a million. Add five $50k backups and you are heading towards a $1,000,000 salary team and have only paid a bit over $2,000,000 for them. As I said it is the weekly wages that are the killer, buying players is stupidly cheap. A team with a roster like that would clean up in division II.

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208432.126 in reply to 208432.125
Date: 2/23/2012 1:21:59 AM
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Yeah a number of factors contributed to it though.

FAs kept being released onto the market so there are more players on the market.

Reduction in Salary which was made monoskilled training be a bit more sustainable than it was 3-4 seasons ago.

It makes me sad on how much money we all lost and how tough it was to compete when I first promoted to ABBL. It took half a season+ of saving and being competitive to be able to afford my next player.

Right now, you can buy up and compete straight away. That 1 mill promotion bonus is enough to give you 2 mono skilled ABBL starters

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208432.127 in reply to 208432.126
Date: 2/23/2012 2:41:09 AM
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Totally agree. The FA effect has had a multiplier effect as well as the overall number of managers reduces, new players are being trained every day and those old players just keep on coming back again and again unless they are total rubbish. I think it must be even worse for lower teams who want to compete. When I first won division III my most expensive player was around $10,000 and now it is typically more like around nearly $100,000 - no wonder they struggle when they hit division II and so many decide to tank it.

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208432.128 in reply to 208432.127
Date: 2/23/2012 6:46:09 AM
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The FA effect has had a multiplier effect as well as the overall number of managers reduces,



Well both you and our resident GM are both outspoken about this situation.

What can the good people like yourselves do to persuad those who control the Game Engine, to fix it ?????????

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208432.129 in reply to 208432.128
Date: 2/24/2012 4:32:20 AM
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They don't want to fix it because they think it is good for the game. Lots of people have complained in the past about how hard it is to catch up to the "established" teams like all you ABBL legends. Well now it isn't. Any team can now buy amazing players for a song. The world has changed, we are disadvantaged but new teams *think* they are getting a benefit when really they can be crippling their teams long term success by too much easy access to great players with huge salaries before they know how to use them. Imagine a new team, with their $250,000, they see an incredible player for sale, he is only 35 and is on a $50,000 a week salary so they spend it all and buy him. They just wrecked their team's future. Couldn't happen when I started.

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208432.130 in reply to 208432.129
Date: 2/24/2012 4:52:35 AM
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Interesting analysis there Yoda.

Did you realise we had an "Arthur Daley" in the ABBL ??

Brady Dowd 18 year old superstar brought on 16/2 for $1,000.

Now for sale asking price $139,000

Ludwig Spaur was brought on the 16/2 for $3,000

Now for sale, asking price $139,000

Noticed the same entrepeneur still has a fetish for acquiring 18 year olds

Good luck to him


(Edit - Just realised most of the Managers in this game are probably to young to know of Arthur Daley)

Last edited by Sid Vicious at 2/24/2012 4:54:37 AM

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