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why bother training players out of position, buying expensive SF with high IS, just buy 3 SGs with high JS and JR and play RnG?

As someone who recently bought a pretty expensive SF with good IS, I'm starting to think BBs may make sudden changes that will make me regret it.

why bother training players out of position, buying expensive SF with high IS, just buy 3 SGs with high JS and JR and play RnG?

As someone who recently bought a pretty expensive SF with good IS, I'm starting to think BBs may make sudden changes that will make me regret it.

Exactly I want to buy expensive SF and train SGs out of position but if BB change 2-3 zone, it might be not worth it to build efficient LI team.

why bother training players out of position, buying expensive SF with high IS, just buy 3 SGs with high JS and JR and play RnG?

As someone who recently bought a pretty expensive SF with good IS, I'm starting to think BBs may make sudden changes that will make me regret it.

Exactly I want to buy expensive SF and train SGs out of position but if BB change 2-3 zone, it might be not worth it to build efficient LI team.

Maybe it's you who don't train in a efficient way, because it's really easy to train IS in outside players, just train JS&1n1 in SF-PF and you will see how the IS of your player will raise.

Massing OD& training 1n1 or JS in SF-PF it's an easy way to have a good team without doing a big effort

Maybe it's you who don't train in a efficient way, because it's really easy to train IS in outside players, just train JS&1n1 in SF-PF and you will see how the IS of your player will raise.

Massing OD& training 1n1 or JS in SF-PF it's an easy way to have a good team without doing a big effort

First of all I doubt it's the case with low height 24 years old SGs. Secondly, you have to play them out of position that means you can easily loose games, not everyone can afford that all the time. Thirdly, why people pay crazy money for balanced SFs? Because it's so easy to train them? I doubt that.

I believe that changing 2-3 zone and making it somehow easy to use for everyone will mean shifting balance to Outside offenses and forcing people to use different training patterns.

Well thats going off-topic but it's really easy to train in the SF-PF positions like 50% of managers does in first spanish division, even if they are low height(players) and with 27-28 they still can train. Like this team (76608) and he had a really good results, so you seem don't know a lot what impact can have if BB's make some changes on 2-3.

buying expensive SF with high IS, just buy 3 SGs with high JS and JR and play RnG?

That's what some B3 teams did, they bought or trained 3 PG's with high OD, passing and nice driving-IS to score from inside, plus they had 2 big inside mans, but the diference is that they started playing LI(with 3 outside players in PG-SG-SF position). Most of the teams are changing to this, because if they face an outside team they can play 3-2 and they know they are so hard to counter on the inside(there isn't any zone that can stop them).

(25843) Another team that trains mass OD, one of his players has OD 18 and passing 11(and he is only 21 years ¡¡¡) and the salary of this kind of players it's really low. If you continue training this kind of players in SF-PF position(well on the SF) then you can have a so good defender and passing player, but he also will be a nice scorer when he drives to the inside.

You can't counter this teams, because if you play 2-3 you can't stop the drivings of the outside players, which is unreal for sure, and i'll repeat NT's have great SF and even if we tried a 2-3 you just can't stop the drivings of the outside players, that should be changed if 3 big guys are defending close it's unreal an outside player can get in that easy unless it's Rose.

So yes fix the 2-3 it's unreal when outside players drive under the basket like the hell... It seems you play against 3 Roses on the court ¡

Last edited by Marot at 5/16/2011 8:47:01 PM

Maybe it's you who don't train in a efficient way, because it's really easy to train IS in outside players, just train JS&1n1 in SF-PF and you will see how the IS of your player will raise.

Massing OD& training 1n1 or JS in SF-PF it's an easy way to have a good team without doing a big effort

It's as easy as clicking a mouse for you, so it's not hard, but compared to training JS, JR on 6'0 it is a thankless job.
I didn't know it was that easy at BB to have your guards score layups on 2-3 zone, I'll try more LI :)

There are more than 3 variables. Doesn't 2-3 zone beat Low Post?

But there's no balance in real sport, not at least in NBA. LI is what most successful teams use, putting pressure on the defence team. So the defence team has to give up something if they switch from m2m.
Although if 2-3 zone is no good vs Low Post, it is questionable.