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To all the "titles=teh best!11" people: LeBron got his first title (age 27) before MJ (age 28). Of course, Kobe had three before both of them, but most people I think realize that including him in a Lebron/MJ comparison is pretty ridiculous.

Ill start off by saying I respect your opinion, I really do. I feel like you deserve another response from me, as this is turning into a pretty interesting debate here. however, my response can be stated like this:

I would agree, if your facts weren't, oh I don't know, WRONG

1. Drexler wasn't in Houston until 94-95. I pointed out 93-94
2. Cleveland only made 1 championship, that can easily be argued as Lebron by himself willing the Cavs to a championship (Ever thought why they got blown out 4-0 to the Spurs?)
3. Cassell was a rookie on the bench in 93-94 and made .8 3pt shots per game
4. Mario Elie averaged 5.8 ppg in the 94 playoffs
5. Horry only made .5 3 pt shots per game in the 94 playoffs

Easily arguable Olajuwon won that championship single-handedly. Leading in 5 stats is doing it Single-Handedly.

Lebron did have all-star help, but how much help is a worthless all-star who can't unseat Zydrunas Ilgauskas? (See Shaquille O'Neal 2009-2010 Cleveland Cavaliers). It is not bias if its beyond true.

If your in the mood to point out the 2006-2007 Cavs, Lebron only led the Cavs in Points and Assists per game, but he played over 240 more minutes than the next player. The cavs went as far as Lebron could take them. Thats single-handedly MAKING a championship because he didn't win, but still proves a point.

stats courtesy of baskeball-reference.com, maybe you might want to check this site out before making untrue statements.

Last edited by G3C at 4/14/2013 4:23:25 AM

You can't edit your post after the fact and then say my statement is incorrect. At the time it was. I'm done in this thread.

stats courtesy of baskeball-reference.com, maybe you might want to check this site out before making untrue statements.

I concur - it would be embarrassing to make an untrue statement that ends up being true!

drexler and hakeem won back to back title together. They beat the knicks and magic.. I see how your cheery picking.. I said they all where deadly 3point shooters and all where starters in their career for other teams and very good good players. Your arguring ppg I said nothing of ppg.

They had fantastic cast of players to win 2 back to back titles. Arguable doesn't not mean fact. Michael jordan lead the bulls in a lot of stats. he didn't win those title by himself. Ppeople love to argue that point down people throat the say it the same way your doing now. larry bird lead the celtics in a lot of stats every year, he didn't win those titles by himself. Come on man.

LeBron had wally szbck and many other that's why he went to the finals. If that is case of doing it all alone why didn't he go every year to the final in cleveland?? Because it not possible to win championship by yourself he needed greater talent, he had good talent around him former all star but he needed greater talent some like dwade . same for Kobe ..

A arugement don't make it fact. I could say wilt chamberlain won the lakers those titles.. But id be wrong because he had great cast of help

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 4/14/2013 3:44:23 PM

I can't resist. Clyde has ONE title. Hakeem has TWO. Use your fingers if you have to... ONE, TWO.

My favorite part of this thread is that he has now referred to Wally Sczerbiak twice as a contributor to Lebron's success.

wtf is going on here? Lebron vs. Kobe? right now Kobe cant even walk right so Lebron wins easily. but if it were clutch time and I had to choose between one of em, its Kobe by a landslide


now close this thread

No, they didn't! Drexler wasn't on the team until '95, when Portland honored his trade request and traded him to Houston for Otis Thorpe.

Are you going to Seriously Compare Michael Jordan right now? He had himseld along with 2 HOF's on his teams i n Pippen and Rodman. Not even close. Never argued Jordan like you tend to believe.

I killed your 3pt argument because they didn't contribute. I pointed out ppg AND 3pt makes per game. Practice before you preach (cherry picking I mean)

I can't argue this anymore. Your argument is logicless without any fact base behind it, meanwhile I've dismantled ever argument you've laid out

Another point, Wally szczerbiak wasn't a Cavalier in the 2007 championship run like you TEND to believe. he was a part of the SONICS!

Last edited by G3C at 4/14/2013 6:39:56 PM

the point is they had all star help and won championships. look go look at the p stats non Maxwell had 120-140 3 pts made both years during those those runs..

Mario ellie was shooting 335% sam cassell 295.% kenny smith 405%. Robert horry 325.% scott brook 377%. matt bullard 325% in 1993..

1994 Mario ellie was shooting 398%. sam cassell 330% Kenny smith 429% Robert horry 379% scott brook 371% cycle drexlar 375%

at mininmum of 50 3pts shots taken your sitting here telling me they did nothing. Ill say what your drinking send me a case..

wally left via trade. that year..

the point is they had all star help and won championships. look go look at the stats V Maxwell had 120-140 3 pts made both years during those those runs..

Mario ellie was shooting 335% sam cassell 295.% kenny smith 405%. Robert horry 325.% scott brook 377%. matt bullard 325% in 1993..

1994 Mario ellie was shooting 398%. sam cassell 330% Kenny smith 429% Robert horry 379% scott brook 371% cycle drexlar 375%

at mininmum of 50 3pts shots taken your sitting here telling me they did nothing. I'll say what ever your drinking send me a case..lol

wally left via trade. that year.. Your siting arguring the fact but the thruth says other wise.. Your initialed to your opinon but it doesn't make it the truth, hakeem had a legion of great 3pt shooters he didn't win that title alone he was focail point of that team same as for david robinson with the spurs.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 4/15/2013 12:33:17 AM