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Hello !
From this season my team is homegrown team My players look the same - they are cloned interesting - am i the only such team inBB. Happy New Year
Is there a place for me on your list?

Almost … yes ;-)

Thanks for your messages!

To the first one - I didn't realize you're such an experienced and apparently very knowledgeable manager, so therefore I crowded the forum with mainly basic tips. But maybe, just maybe, someone will get something out of them. Maybe not, but that's life. ;P

As for BBHG league, frankly I'm completely unaware of possible discussion about it that takes place out of Buzzerbeater forums as I don't use Discord. As you can see, what becomes to BBHG league it's been somewhat silent here in the forums lately. If you or anyone else happens to know if discussion about it has taken place in Discord, please let me know.
As it stands right now - and like you already noticed by reading through the thread - there are 8 of us currently interested in participating in the league.

What becomes to amount of interested teams, the current number (8) is already quite nice, and on the other hand I'm somewhat disappointed that there still aren't more of us (as there are actually even some more HG teams in BB than the list at the 1st page of this thread mentions). Having said that, it's more important to have dedicated teams to participate, than having plenty of teams that wouldn't be willing to take the trouble to follow through with their obligations to the BBHG league (for instance, to arrange weekly matches as planned).

Like I mentioned couple of times before, nothing would restrict us to begin the league as soon as we want, as already that amount of teams would be quite decent. Perhaps not optimal (as some tough decisions would need to be made when deciding what kind of league system to use and how many would qualify for playoffs, or then all 8 teams would need to be granted a spot for playoffs, which on the other hand would make regular season a bit less meaningful...like you can see with this one example only, there are so many considerations to be made to make it optimal... having said that, optimal is a relative term and sometimes it's just better to get things rolling anyway instead of waiting for everything to be "optimal").

I have presented few of the possible (of practically tens of possible) league systems here in the forum, but apart from Elan Demars' manager demars, not many remarks/comments have been made about them. So I have no idea if participating teams would for instance prefer the most traditional possible league system, or rather more inventive/interesting one.

As for BB staff/owners interest of taking an administrative role of this BuzzerBeater Homegrown-league, I honestly don't have any clue about that. Like I mentioned/hinted in this forum multiple times (I believe), I wouldn´t mind see BB owners taking control/administrative role here, as it would free of us of lot of manual work (most work would fall to the league commissioner though, so not that big of a task for a regular team that decides to participate!) and would ensure everything goes as planned within the planned envelope time wise. So I don't know if BB owners even read this thread as I haven't had any personal BB-mail from them about it, and as you can see AFAIK they haven't commented anything to this thread either.

So to your question 1): mentally we are closer to establishing the league, as personally I keep entertaining different possibilities (in terms of league systems, awakening more interest towards the league, etc.) and thinking what could be made to make the league as good, interesting and fair to all as ever possible.
Also, a full set of rules for the BBHG are still to be established.
Firstly, if we keep this league "on our hands", I think we need to have some sanctions/penalties if you don't stick with the rules (sanctions could differ from one type of violation to another).
Second, I guess many "typical real life rules" would suit this BBHG league well, however I'd like to see couple of additions. We could for instance consider changing the regular season team rankings determining order slightly, etc..

Good choice, as it will be next to impossible to defend effectively against your (and against elpupes') team, as we can never visually identify which one of your players was the best 3 point shooter of the team, or who's the one who´s phenomenal in rebounds, etc... ;)

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Eight is a good start and, as you say, enough to get started. I will certainly be joining you all at the start of next season.

Here in Australia back around Season 14 to 20 [...] a large Private League called the 'Fishbowl'.

Thank you very much for "keeping the discussion rolling" as you stated yourself - this was one of the best, thoughtful, well structured and thorough reply I've ever received in BuzzerBeater (during 50+ seasons), so I'm really looking forward to your contributions in future as well! This kind of reply of yours also deserves a more thorough answer than what I have time to write right now, so I just wanted to say I'll certainly give a better and more thorough response when I have bit more time.

Now I understand better what the "Bring back the Fishbowl." under each of your forum post means, and similarly I'd like to make BuzzerBeater Home-grown league something that people in BB community recognize/know, remember, and of which existence they've come to expect in a long term. I'm in a BB for a long term, and do intend to stick with the BBHG league for the whole duration of it's existence (given that my team will be eligible for the league, and that would likely be the case in the future as well).

I guess in time, when enough managers are eager, and contributing their opinions and wishes regarding the format and setup of a league, it will happen.

Theoretically/optimally/in ideal world yes, but in practice I'm afraid that's not completely likely to happen here in BB forums - like I mentioned I have no idea if discussion is taking place in Discord about this. I would also like to think this way, but practice has shown me (in "real world") that sometimes things just need to be taken forward by some(one) decisively, and then (and sometimes only then, when certain point in the process is being achieved) things will perhaps gather more interest/discussion, and discussion will start to flow. (Having said that, I've enjoyed the activity here in the Homegrown teams forum lately, but what I mean that not much discussion about BBHG league has taken place recently).

What I mean for instance, that I have tried to include in my lengthy messages some propositions/open questions already, but haven't received many responses. So in that sense I could conclude, that oh well, it seems this league isn't gathering enough interest, I'll just let it be, it's not the proper time for it (now, but maybe never). But I'm not willing to take such a negative take on this, especcially as there are already 8 of us interested (9 starting next season including you!) so I'll instead try to keep up the discussion about it. I think one of the ways would be to send informative private message about this league to most if not all to the teams in the beginning of the thread, but I haven't done that at least yet. I'm sure many homegrown teams that are on that list follow this thread quite regularly, so I guess they've been able to see what's been discussed about this league in this thread, and they've seen me ask multiple times that please announce your interest here in this forum or as a private message to me should you be interested in joining the BBHG league. So far I have received 1 private message (team announcing interest), so my BB mail won't be jammed if I'd get 1 (or 10) more of such replies, in fact I'd welcome them. :D
Some might also not be very familiar with English language, so that could be an issue for some.

As for league formats and such, I've also mentioned that I could write about possible league formats (in slightly more thorough manner than in previous post) should people (preferably more than 1 ;P) be interested in hearing about them - no response. And as far as league formats go, one option would be to present different options here in the forum and ask each committed participant what they'd prefer. In my case not with a questionnaire though as I'm not a supporter..