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166665.123 in reply to 166665.118
Date: 12/23/2010 7:50:29 PM
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I can't follow the argument that this change will " help rebalance several pieces of the game" - pretty obscure imo.


Others have pointed out how this "helps rebalance several pieces of the game". Like Charles said, this change is not about fixing 5th place. The 5th place thing is just a feature of the change.

After you realize that 4th and 5th place are not the main features of this fix, then let's talk some more.

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166665.125 in reply to 166665.117
Date: 12/23/2010 7:53:43 PM
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Pls read:

Salary roster: 579,500
Average revenue home game: 147,086

What should I add? It's clear enough?
O_o"


All that proves is that you are carrying way too much salary for a division III team. Maybe that's because you are trying to time a run for the title while sitting on a huge bank balance? I don't know.

In any case, I am not sure what this adds to the discussion.

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166665.126 in reply to 166665.117
Date: 12/23/2010 10:17:07 PM
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Salary roster: 579,500
Average revenue home game: 147,086

What should I add? It's clear enough?
O_o"



When I read this I think you may have bigger problems than what happens at the end of next season. If this is accurate it I consider it an extreme and fairly unique position. If this change only negatively effects people in this predicament, I say job well done BB's, you limited the damage nicely.

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166665.127 in reply to 166665.123
Date: 12/24/2010 12:20:07 AM
Cassville Yuck
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everyone needs to re-read two posts above this.

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166665.128 in reply to 166665.126
Date: 12/24/2010 3:25:25 AM
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That is it. I too am getting me a team that loses 250k a week.

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166665.129 in reply to 166665.127
Date: 12/24/2010 3:27:17 AM
Freccia Azzurra
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Starting from the third division all the teams that want to try to be promoted in Italy are losing money every week, I'm in a particular situation, don't worry about me, I'm here since season 2 and I'm really happy you like what has been proposed, we have a complete different opinion and time will tell...
Nothing more to say I've making my example with figures and my point of view is clear ;)

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Date: 12/24/2010 3:36:57 AM
Freccia Azzurra
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I believe that people that now try to become in at 5th, just to avoid the salary because they believe they will not get to the final will never be champion. You will build you team to get to 5th place instead of building to be the best. I have calculated the 2 weeks of no salary max. and still I try to be champion even if it's impossible this season.

I was sceptic about this change but I believe it's not so much of an impact on your team as everyone tries to make me believe.

Only if you have screwed up financial status you might like the new 5th place and it might just give you some piece of mind to know if you do come in 5th because your just not better then that that your not stuck with 2 full weeks of salary loss.


+1 for you, full quote

It seems that the others say that when you'll finish 5 instead of 4, you'll have a penalty in the next season, this is th argument of which one think that this change is good. Or the code will be totally re-written or imho they don't have so much experience in BB. Now really STOP :p

1990-2022 Stalinorgel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV-Xppl6h8Et
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166665.132 in reply to 166665.123
Date: 12/24/2010 3:46:21 AM
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I can't follow the argument that this change will " help rebalance several pieces of the game" - pretty obscure imo.


Others have pointed out how this "helps rebalance several pieces of the game". Like Charles said, this change is not about fixing 5th place. The 5th place thing is just a feature of the change.

After you realize that 4th and 5th place are not the main features of this fix, then let's talk some more.


I know this is meant to be a redistribution of wealth from the top teams to the bottom, but there could have been other (simpler) measures to do that.

I think I am spoiled by some other games I played and the way problems and solutions were handled there - maybe thats why I have problems understanding the developers so often...

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166665.133 in reply to 166665.113
Date: 12/24/2010 3:52:07 AM
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well, this is your news post
We would also like to announce that after heated negotiations, the players have finally agreed to a new collective bargaining agreement taking effect in Season 15. Players will be given a larger share of television revenue (meaning that your weekly TV income will go down). In return, players have agreed to only take a salary during weeks when their teams play at least one competitive league game. Teams finishing in 5th and 8th place will pay no salaries during both weeks of the playoffs, and teams eliminated from the playoffs will pay no salaries in the second playoff week. Teams in a relegation series will only pay second week salaries if they end up playing a decisive game during the second week.

You say nothing on WHY you made this changes.
In this thread you only claimed the following.
In fact, these changes came about in order to help rebalance several pieces of the game

Maybe if you explained a bit better the reasons for this changes we would have made more sensible comments.

Nonetheless, it is clear for everybody that compared to now:
1) Teams making it to the playoff final will lose money due to the reduced tv revenue
2) Teams finishing 5th will make more money (unless the tv cut is more than, say, 30% and compensates for the 2 weeks salary cut, which would be a distaster)
3) While now finishing 3th or 4th is always economically preferable than finishing 5th, in the future that might not be true for everyone.

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