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From: kokka

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Date: 7/9/2010 8:14:37 PM
Tachenko
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Mayagoitia just state " It is a shame that Lebron quit, I won't never do that to Tachenko's fans"

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From: Fella

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Date: 7/9/2010 9:49:50 PM
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The anger has boiled over. Never have I seen someone so loved and then so hated in one day. The way he decided to do it and throw it in the face of everyone in the state of Ohio on national television was just unbelievable. I think a fair and balanced article probably the best I have read yet is here,

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-lebrondecision070910

$70 dollar jersey's burned outside the arena, there ashes left in a pile. People burning their jersey's and posting them on You Tube with more expletives then you care to count or listen too. Sports radio talk shows buzzing about Gilbert's open letter..........just amazing. Gilbert is an idiot who does he think he is going to bring in to Cleveland to help win a championship before D Wayde and his assistants? Brad Miller? The good free agents are signed Lebron made sure to wait long enough to make his decision to make sure Cleveland would not be able to sign anyone else. Pathetic and dirty!

Quote of the day......"Lebron was supposed to be the next Michael Jordan, instead he chose to be Scottie Pippen!"

From: Xarn

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Date: 7/10/2010 12:11:32 AM
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That is exactly right. He didn't have enough confidence in himself to do it like Jordan. Cleveland is angry. I have never seen an owner a team react like they have to his leaving. Unbelievable!



Cleveland fans reacted exactly like this when Art Model took his browns and left town, they reacted like this when Carlos Boozer told them not to exercise the club option and then bolted.

As soon as clevelanders come to realize that Cleveland is a grubby little town with shitty weather and no sex appeal, the sooner they'll find peace. Cleveland is what it is and superstars don't want to be there.

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To: Xarn
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Date: 7/10/2010 12:15:25 PM
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wow wasn't exactly looking for an indictment on a city there but I guess you gotta tell it like you feel.

From: E-Rock
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Date: 7/10/2010 1:53:07 PM
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I can't stand Lebron. But I'll tell you what.... 7 seasons in Cleveland is plenty. Ohio is not exactly a traveled destination. Other than "The Ohio State U" what the heck else is there? The Rock Hall of Fame.... Going to Florida was the right move. No income tax. Near perfect weather in the winter months. And seriously.... Cleveland=Not so nice place for a millionaire to live in. I will say this. The Celtics knock the Heat out of the play-offs and loose to the Lakers in 7 again!

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From: kokka

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Date: 7/10/2010 2:25:19 PM
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I wouldn't blame lebron for this situation, at least not completely. The show about his decision was ridiculous but Cleveland can't blame him for choosing that late. They had the option of giving lebron a deadline to communicate his decision to cleveland so they could have enough time to sign up free agents players. They didn't and that was a bad management decision, now they are blaming lebron for that?!.

On top of that they had seven years to build a team around lebron. Never happened. They just needed one big talented guy in the paint and 4/5 decent players. Never happened.

So yes, all this show that lebron did was stupid and unnecessary only understandable from the commercial perspective. However, blaming lebron for the bad management of the cavs, the economical situation of Ohio etc... is not fair.

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Date: 7/10/2010 3:47:03 PM
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looks like having a big 3 on your roster is the quick way to get a ring, at least GM's think that way. all the teams are after theiw own big 3s. I wish it was that easy in BB. If you ask me who is the big 3 of my team, my answer would be "I don't know, never thought about it"

form is temporary class is permanent
From: Fella

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Date: 7/10/2010 4:58:14 PM
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I agree with you on the management part that is why I posted the link to the article last night that I thought was fair and balanced in both directions. Obviously being from the Cleveland area I am a bit partial to that area but I can understand what you mean. Obviously South Beach is a bit more savvy then Cleveland however he indicates he is still going to live here and trust me the mansions around the Cleveland area are not shabby. More millionaires then you think live around the area.
If you want to use that argument though many NBA players do not live in the city that they play for so Lebron could have stayed in Cleveland and bought mansions anywhere he wanted to live. I don't think where he lived had anything to do with the decision. His off season will be spent with his "homey's" and family in Akron.

I did not blame Lebron (don't think), for the economic situation only mentioned that it would not help it any at all. I think as a Cleveland fan we will be fine. We are used to having scrub teams. It will be interesting to see what we do with all the extra money. Maybe they can share some with the Browns and get us a quarterback............and every other position.

From: Fella

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Date: 7/10/2010 5:10:17 PM
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E rock I agree on the 7 years but let's look at this fairly. the first 4 years Lebron was good and kept getting better but not great. His defense was pourous at the time, initially his outside shot was Inept (kudos to BB ratings) he had alot to work on coming out of high school. So really there was the last 3 years where he became a "superstar" but then management had alot of money tied up in giving him his full share when they extended his initial contract. Should something more have been done..........yes everything possible should have been done. Danny Ferry and his pathetic NBA career should have been out the door two years ago before he paid the big weasel err diesel to come and suck up 12 million last year and stink it up on the court. Worst decision ever when they should have been getting a younger stud like Stoudemire or Bosh then. So I agree but let's not act like Lebron has been a superstar for 7 years with no help. He has been paid like a superstar from the beginning but only recently actually stepped into those shoes. In addition the biggest management mistake was allowing him and his entourage to call the shots and act like a spoiled brat when things did not go his way. It is easy to look calm and collected when you get your way.

Will be very interesting to see if he can really be the assistant not the one calling the shots, not the one going coast to coast, not the one people are looking to. Maybe that is what he wanted but if that is the case he will.........never be the greatest. I can't stand Kobe but for all his "problems" he has had one thing that I can respect. Loyalty to a city to management, to his team etc. He could have left for more money but stuck around. He want's to be the man in LA and he is.

From: Fella

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Date: 7/10/2010 5:13:36 PM
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Hey you can't forget the Cleveland Clinic. If you ever end up with a weird life threatening disease you will end up at the Cleveland Clinic. You will love Cleveland then................lol. On a serious note.....hope none of you guys ever have to go there.

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