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i think so, he talks about the BBB competion where he need to lineup a similiar roster like the opposition but have less money.

Yes you can argue, that normal teams don't get their(especially not so fast), but on the other end it is also unlikely that he get the same econonic circumstances and oppurtunitys like his opposition he wants to face without tanking.

When you tank and earn money to attack later his situation have several upsides, and even if not he have it easier to tie. And most likely a higher Cup income in average.

But on the ther end if he not tank cause he like the serious play and the competion, he have some disadvantages against other teams like fewer merch, fewer TV and fewer arena income*. And less possible tie during the cup.

And it isn't and argument that he get easy there, while other don't. And i understand his ambition, cause in BBB is probadly the funnier event for him because he have serious games there without playing worse on purpose. But if i remember correctly he already saw, that this is nearly impossible to make it 100 fair and that he also have advantages. But sometimes this discussion is repaeating in circles in my eyes(don't know why i still read it).

* to advertise my own thread, maybe the competion don't have a impact on attandance at least mine is very constant the last games:
(194378.1) here are some theorys about it, but still nothing which really convinced me but 1-2 possible scenarios.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 8/22/2011 4:23:55 PM

But the winning money from both leagues is about the same,not the numbers you use though I get your point, minus the extra rounds teams in larger countries play in there Cup, compared to ours.

Last edited by ClipCap at 8/22/2011 4:41:09 PM

Somebody has to lose in order that somebody could win.
How many teams in history won B3 in their 7th season in game or earlier? (excluding early wins of Torooo in first 6 seasons in BB)? No one. Every B3 champion joined to BB in season 3 or earlier. And excluding one case (Los Dragones which joined to BB in 2nd season and it was 2nd season in Argentina) always it was first season in their countries. So if OP will not win B3 in this season it will be not result of smaller TV contract. There are hundreds more important factors.
And I'm sure that if in future B3 will be won by team which joined to B3 in season 10 or later, it will team from small country, not from big country. And examples of Scorpions and Sharman only prove fact, that teams from small country have easier way to win B3.

Your right, it can. The main point was to make sure that I hadn't overlooked anything, which it seems like I haven't, that was the main thing. I can live with the disadvantage until I start to catch the more established teams later on, hope your right on that one.
Thanks!
+1

the thing is that besides Venomous all have serious and thats why funny competion during their season, and that the situation wouldn't change if he play another 3-4 seasons, which makes your argumentation pointless in my eyes.

Imho the lack of competion is a problem in small countrys, and i think lot of those teams focus more on BBB then teams from other countrys who find competion already in league etc. But i also think this should be solved in a different way, even when it isn't that easy to find a solution ;)(th unions might be a solution but they cause a lot of other problems to solve, but this is something to discuss in another thread)

Exactly. 6 of 1 & half a dozen of the other. If I find something out that changes the points being discussed, then I'll post here.

But the winning money from both leagues is about the same,

Still You're wrong. It is impossible to build in one season team, which is able to win B3. So You have to count money earned in many seasons, not only in one season.
All teams playing in first division in my country started in lower divisions (6x III division, 8x IV division, 2x V division). So they had smaller incomes for many seasons, whilst You had always maximum incomes from beginning. One season in lower division means much lower incomes, it's more important than these few cents from TV contract. And therefore You are able to develop Your team faster. Please count 6 seasons and it will be obvious that Your incomes were much higher. It's FACT and it's simple math.
And I'm sure that in future Your TC contract will be higher, even the same as in big countries (when level of competition in Your league will be higher). Meanwhile incomes in 2nd league always will be worse.

minus the extra rounds teams in larger countries play in there Cup, compared to ours.

It's funny. You have no guarantee that You will win more rounds so You can't count these money. And I'm sure that money for winner in 6th round in cup in Your country is higher than money for winner in 6th round in cup in my country. In Your country it's 100k, in my country it's 50k. It's unfair.

Why pointless? All good managers joined to BB only in 1st, 2nd or 3rd season? And all managers who joined in 4th season or later are worse?
And please note, that this tanking as was made by VS, is possible only in small country. In big country team will be relegated and incomes in next season will be much smaller. Other way is to tank in high league in first season, and after relegation use money to promotion in 2nd season and to tank in 3rd season again. But this method is 50% less effective than tanking in small country.
But small coutry vs big country isn't so big problem. More important problem is that manager who joined earlier has big advantage in comparition to others, who joined later (in the same country). Weak manager who joined earlier (and therefore who plays in higher division) still can develop team faster than good manager who joined later.

GOOD