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From: GM-hrudey

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264414.125 in reply to 264414.124
Date: 11/7/2014 8:10:04 PM
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if the offense i am running is not working in my league and i want to change to a different offense, i am going to have to sell players at big losses (which i hate doing) and then buy the right players.

If i buy a good pg now and a month later i find a great pg its going to be harder to change out pg now.

If i buy i player and keep him for 2 or 3 months and train him and then resell him. I should not have to pay high fees since i am already paying at least $150,000 a year on a trainer.

From the day trading i have seen from top tier teams, it seems there buying and reselling 18 and 19 year old players.
So maybe thats the area that needs to be fixed.


I think (note: my opinion) is that the 18/19 yo thing is definitely a problem. More to the point, people who buy people at low prices and then re-list them continually at an inflated price until someone bites is (again, my opinion) detrimental to the game.

I would like to see people not be able to list players above the price they paid for them until they've had them for a full season, and only able to list at 1k for the first month. Or something like that, though. If someone truly is skilled enough to buy players below their true worth, they can still make money, while those who are fleecing people by inflating starting prices should be crimped.

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264414.126 in reply to 264414.92
Date: 11/7/2014 11:37:54 PM
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lastly if your going babysit new managers and manger alike. add a" financial advisor "option.. The 1st season its auto-matic.. This cpu helping advisor does arena for the new team, sets the budgets. tell you which players are a good and bad. he will redirect the sale or out right stop the sale say look at these prospects. telling the manager they don't have budget within good reasoning to afford such player. It keep players from bankrupt.

It should be function for new ball clubs and ball clubs in money trouble.


A financial advisor would be an interesting addition to staff, along with doctor, trainer and PR manager. One problem I see with that, though, is that the implementation would probably be every bit as erratic as their attempts to portray a possible range within which a player on the transfer list may sell. And if they do it too well it may reveal stuff about how the engine works that they don't want revealed. Interesting idea, though.

From: Jay_m

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264414.127 in reply to 264414.120
Date: 11/8/2014 8:46:06 AM
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But I am not totally dismissive of day-trading if the context is right. I think this new system mainly punishes teams for being active in improving their team all season through the transfer list. Anyone who sees an upgrade to their team available in the market should not be discouraged to make their team better. Overextension tax, the previous transfer tax, and gameshape penalties have already done something to minimize rent-a-player(s) to some extent but no one can completely prevent any team from doing so. The way to tackle day-trading, although we know there will continue to be people still resorting to this, is, I still believe, by taxing the profits -- side by side with the previous player tax system. This also protects a team's draft picks value (as they were not the subject of flipping).
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This is well written. There is nothing wrong in trading up as new players come on the market. The current system penalizes this and rewards those who spend more and buy the best player in the first place. But this is expensive and therefore promotes tanking to build up that cash balance.

Last edited by Jay_m at 11/8/2014 8:49:10 AM

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264414.129 in reply to 264414.128
Date: 11/8/2014 7:50:58 PM
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Me personally I have no merit feeling toward aut0- bidding and the likes. I feel a certain number of players should be able to come through to a team in a season after that you can only make so many moves.

Making 30-60 sells in a season is just a team slave auction house nothing more or less. I don't think auto bidding is the curetp all, it still fall down to deep wallets rather than being online to use your wallet. If they clean it up so its fair.. maybe it can be supporter option to use.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 11/8/2014 7:52:57 PM

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264414.130 in reply to 264414.126
Date: 11/8/2014 7:56:24 PM
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I agree with that claim . I think they can remove the selling part outright and only make it wise advice suggested to sell certain players , not actually sell the player for them.


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264414.131 in reply to 264414.128
Date: 11/8/2014 11:01:33 PM
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Bless your heart, it is such fun to look for your posts. They are always so full of hellfire and brimstone, so hilarious. BB forums need a little emoticon of a sprightly little devil, breathing fire, hopping up and down, waving a pitchfork in the air ... and ultimately exploding in a nuclear mushroom cloud. Or else a pathetic little victim emoticon, with sad eyes and a teardrop in one corner of one eye, wiping his little eyes with his little fists, lower lip curled and quivering, stomping his little foot. Make the forums entertaining, bring in new users that way!

If passion alone could get autobid done, it would be done for sure. However, a change for the convenience of the few who live in an "inconvenient" time zone at the possible expense of everyone else just isn't going to carry the day. And autobid MIGHT do this and it MIGHT do that, but the one thing autobid cannot do, ever, in any time zone, is assure you the winning bid if you are not present at the end of the auction. And ultimately it is only the winning bid that matters, eh? But oh for sure keep up the crusade, it is such fun! Bless your heart.

From: SpazX

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264414.132 in reply to 264414.12
Date: 11/9/2014 12:25:44 AM
Spazs Ballers
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I have no issues with the update. I like it. I too have seen a rise of whining and complaining on the forum. I have posted to only be negatively treated by responders...

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264414.135 in reply to 264414.134
Date: 11/9/2014 5:57:35 AM
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Autobid are interesting but it was tried in Hattrick and unfortunately it haven´t work very well. Daytrading plus buying a new team short for playoffs are big problem which is unreal and made this game not as fun to play as it should. So I think it´s important to come with as many ideas how to solve it as possible.

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