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129389.126 in reply to 129389.121
Date: 1/28/2010 12:40:52 PM
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Now i see he is over 68k and the transfer list of the coachs is really expensive, i dont mind buying a level 5 coach but my incomes arent that good, so i will have to sell 1 rookie which means i lose potential on my training and this means i lose potential on my team and when you are on a balanced league only training gives you the chance to improve.


Just an aside, I find that most managers are not keeping their high level trainers long enough. To replace your 68k salary level 6 trainer with a 17k salary one should cost about 1.5 million, otherwise you are making money from the transaction.

Now, the question should be more like: how many teams can afford a 68K salary trainer? Obviously you are one of them, so you are doing quite well. I doubt that there are many division III teams in Canada who could do it.

PS Level 6+ trainers are really only interesting for people training U21 and NT players. Otherwise, it is a money losing proposition. A level 4 or 5 trainer does pretty much the same thing, the 1 extra pop per year is really not worth the expense.

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Date: 1/28/2010 12:47:30 PM
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Back on the topic. The only solution offered so far is that either people in big communities should get their revenue increased dramatically



I guess what I proposed did not qualify as a solution. ;-)

I guess people do not want more international competition, they just want more money to kick ass in their country. It does not make sense to me but I guess that is the way it goes.

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Date: 1/28/2010 12:51:54 PM
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Well I am sorry that I kinda ignored your idea but it seemed just a bit radical.

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Well I am sorry that I kinda ignored your idea but it seemed just a bit radical.


Maybe radical, but I think it would be fun. I really think the lack of international competition is holding this game back a bit. The B3 is only for a select few managers and really has no impact on teams like me.

In fact, I am kind of at a cross roads in my career as I could push my team a bit and add salaries, but it would not really help me much as there are two monsters at the top of my country. If I am going to take them down, I still have to follow a long-term plan (maybe even a 5 season plan).

But... If you add international tournaments that actually mean something in terms of income (and I do not mean the puny cup and B3 prizes), now I have some decisions to make.

Some bonuses or subtractions based on my salary level are not really going to help my overall enjoyment of the game. Besides, I still maintain that without international competition, none of this really matters. Everyone in your country is on the same footing so there is really nothing to complain about. Who cares what is going on in Cyprus, you do not have to play in that league.

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I hear you. In your situation long-term seems to be the way to go. Personally I am all for more international tournaments and all for removing B3 income as I see it as means only for the rich to get richer. On the other hand I would not go as far as merging the countries together. Having local competitions, communities or rivalries is fun for me. Being able to interact with your competitors is one of the best things in BB for me right now.

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Date: 1/28/2010 1:28:54 PM
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There should definitely be more international tournaments for User-Controlled teams. Maybe there can be 256 team tournaments based on their overall rankings, so the top 256 would be in one tournament, the next 256 in another, and so on.

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On the other hand I would not go as far as merging the countries together.


That was just me trying to make a point by being silly. It was separate from my serious idea about having international tournaments.

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Date: 1/28/2010 1:48:26 PM
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so the top 256 would be in one tournament, the next 256 in another, and so on.


I think 256 is not enough. There are 14 weeks in BB, which means if single elimination is used and there is one game per week, 16384 teams could be in what is now called the B3, 16384 in the 2nd tournament and 16384 in a 3rd tournament. The remaining teams would not make the cut. Qualification would be based on world ranking and how well you did in last season's tournament.

I understand the BBs do not want much happening in the last week of the season, so one or more weeks could have two game played (like the semi-final and final game).

Other possibilities:

-a qualification game towards the end of the season to get into the 3rd tournament.
-the 2nd tournament has an extra game, so 32768 teams participate in it.

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Date: 1/28/2010 1:50:46 PM
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I said 256 simply because I thought it would allow the greatest amount of competitive games in numerous tournaments. Then the winners of all those tourneys could face off in a winners tournament.

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Date: 1/28/2010 1:59:49 PM
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I said 256 simply because I thought it would allow the greatest amount of competitive games in numerous tournaments.


Ok, I was not thinking like that. So in your system, would you draw the 256 for each tournament completely at random?

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Date: 1/28/2010 2:29:36 PM
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No, it would (only user controlled teams) ranked 1-256, 257-528, 529-768, 769-1024, etc. And they would be seeded in the same manner as the NCAA tourney is where the top team plays the bottom team in the first round, and the #2 plays the second worst and so on.

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