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*throws the popcorn box in the trash*

Great to see that this thread, thanks to Koops' intervention, is back on track.

Although I don't have a specific question (Coach Regan's is yet to be fully explored) I would like to make an observation.
In my short time in BB (8 seasons) I haven't seen such a large number of Aussie managers getting involved in this thread. This alone, for me, suggests that the Aussie community---in terms of wanting the U21 NT team to perform well---is alive and healthy. There are many managers (myself included) who have already, or will put their hands up to assist the next U21 Manager. Of course, as Iwen already noted, the manager who wins the job will no doubt personalise it. all I'd like to say is that I hope the person who takes on this role is able to tap into this great wealth of experience and enthusiasm to reignite both the interest in the Aussie U21 team and greater involvement and input into its progress going forward.

I have no problems admitting that for me Iwen has all the attributes an U21 NT manager needs and, as a result, has my vote. having said that, I will assist whoever gets the job if they want me to.

Keep the questions and responses going guys; it gives all those involved a chance to voice concerns and clarify confusion. And for others...amusement. lol

Just one other point:

( hey this is a campaign, im going to give it all i got )

To get more of the Aussie community involved there really isnt a whole lot more that we can do. I mean other than BB-mailing a user who has never even heard about this side of things and then to try get them involved would just double the workload. I have seen all the effort it takes for coaches to help mentor a brand new user and it is tough and takes a lot. So if they dont show the enthusiasm and initiative to get involved then sadly there isnt that much we can do about it. This is me speaking from experience from when I tried looking for new users and try introduce them to my fed, some wouldnt even listen, some would reply but wouldnt follow through with the advise, some quit because it took too much effort and time but on the odd occasion one or two would actually take a genuine interest and try as best they could. So atleast it wasnt a total waste.

What im trying to say is I will post and keep everyone updated on these forums about our U21 side as the coaches have done before me and as Im sure iwen plans to do aswell. Its up to others to get interested and read the things we say. But you know I will try my best to encourage and motivate people to get involved. There is these forums, BB-mails, feds and for regular non supporters there is the offsite forum here (http://forum.buzzerbeaterstats.com/) that everyone should sign up to because it is usually where tactics are discussed, more info can be found out about our teams there and there is also assitance for your own franchises aswell.

It is really hard to say what we shoud be accepting given the changes that I think will be taking place in management from now on. I haven't had a part in developing the players who will be representing our country in this term so as long as we are competitive in every single match to the best our talent has to offer, I think that will be acceptable for me. Given our competitive nature I'm sure with any loss the coach will be disappointed so I also hope we do not regress a whole lot (if at all) from our recent achievments. So quite possibly still looking at qualifying for the world championships.

If everything goes to plan and management works well as a team, and we can get enough cooperative coaches training their talented players then by the 3rd season onwards I think we could be striving for top dog status amongt our asain rivals and also be seriously competitive and going really deep into the world championships. The ultimate goal is to win the whole thing obviously, so as long we can consistenty get that opportunity, to be in the final game where that is all decided, then I think that is what would be the sort of expectation we can have each season in the not to distant future.

Whether it's me or iwen, we will need time to correct our approach and execute our plan.

Whether it's me or iwen, we will need time to correct our approach and execute our plan.

Awkward moment when I win the election.

This kinda breaks down to your word against his?

Fantastic questions Regan.

Feel free to search my post history if people don't believe I've said this... But training is always about sustainability and planning.

Being the previous U21 coach many seasons ago, I would have loved for everyone with a prospect to just pump the skills as high as possible. But the risk with that is the manager ends up with a player they cannot afford and would be left with no choice but to sell the player or bankrupt themselves. That is not sustainable and a stepping stone towards team success. It also leads to attachment, refusing to sell that player even if he, alone, can't get you any further. Thus stalling the team.

I have always put the needs of a team ahead of the needs of the U21 team. I think it is easier for division III teams to train U21 calibre guards and small forwards, but not bigs. Yet it still happens, and as long as those managers are made aware of the options available to them if they wish to take that path, then we have done our bit.

I don't want 150k monster bigs in division III, cause it just doesn't work.

As long as people understand that we are trying to get the best out of their player in line with their team then it will lead to better participation, especially when success follows. If we put the needs of the nation first, we will end up with half baked players who end up overseas and never trained again.

I believe people need to have a plan with training. Know how you're going to train and know when the players are going to peak and become better than the league you're in. By knowing that, you'll know when it's the right time to make a massive push into the next division.

Helping managers train their rookies isn't the end game. It's about managing their team around their future franchise player. Getting them to understand how to train correctly in alignment with their team's success, and not ending up a mid table team for the rest of their Buzzerbeater life.

Part of me wishes Leeroy, Naker, zyler and Latino all went for the gig.

Naker would talk about recruiting 22 year olds

zyler would have to fend off suggestions he would be too busy having threesomes with hand models and organising Internet in his home. He would also recommend that all talented draftees be sold overseas so they are trained better and the newbie has more munniiieezz.
He would also need permission from his girlfriend to buy supporter.

Latino and Leeroy would just continue flaming each other.

Last edited by iwen at 11/29/2012 4:52:13 PM

Without having visibility of skills at this point, and just going off salary I'd say we would struggle this year. As expected we should make the second round and end up in the playoffs of the Asian Championship, given our group is really easy this season.


but i don't expect this current crop to bring us glory. Next year we wouldn't qualify for the World Cup, so we will end up in the repechage and hopefully qualify for the World Cup consolation tournament.

By then the foundation would be set for a strong push for Asian champions and hopefully qualifying past the group stages of the world, if we can all band together and train like mofos. That is.. If I am reelected, and if I can't get our talent to that level, then I would have failed and learned nothing from my first stint.

A lot of hard work, sometimes just need a bit of luck.

I haven't done any scouting this season, there should be a few gems out there still.

Anyone who sells a player for more than what he sold a similar player for, Zyler would be busy accusing them of cheating.

It has been very quiet today...