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the 13th player would be added within a couple weeks anyway

Does that sound familiar? That is essentially the basis of your entire position because everything else you said revolves around this statement. It also holds the same implications as "It won't matter anyway."

@ Kingsblade,

I am not sure I agree with what you are implying.

If Rip adds the 13th player today, or in two weeks, it does matter. The addition of the player may be dictated based on form or injury to one of the original 12 players. Further, if Rip decides to go with a specific formation, it will leave him options upon who to choose.

Maybe the statement "It won't matter anyway" would be better said about the other 15 teams in the Naismith....since BC Torro will win repeat. Don't you agree??

I am not sure I agree with what you are implying.

If Rip adds the 13th player today, or in two weeks, it does matter.

Go back and read the discussion again, because either you didn't read it or you don't understand what it means to disagree with someone.

Maybe the statement "It won't matter anyway" would be better said about the other 15 teams in the Naismith....since BC Torro will win repeat. Don't you agree??

Is there anyone who doesn't love a good non sequitur?

Is there anyone who doesn't love a good non sequitur?

Yes, I would appreciate one, because I really don't see the point in piling on the Canadian NT manager at this point. If you want to run him out of town on this issue, please do so when the tournament is over or at election time.

The point was made. He disagreed with you. Let's move on.

For example - how about we talk about Canada's win on Monday and the great ratings we put up? How about we talk about the wonderful job RIP is doing at scouting? How about the great job he does communicating with GMs who have Canadian prospects? How about his communication with the community in general?

I feel like the community has started a bad pattern - first with uflorin and now with RIP. We're quick to call NT managers out when they do something we disagree with and other than that, there is absolutely no chatter about the team. It's one of the reasons why I would never run for the position. I also think it contributes to the low level of interaction in our forums.

/rant over

I'm tired of pointing out the situation if you refuse to make an effort to understand.

I understand completely. It just doesn't add up to a real answer. You are essentially saying you don't care about flexibility because we have none anyways. We are asking why not maintain flexibility anyhow because you never know what will happen.

You are getting way too defensive about this. It's not as though this is even a major issue but you are acting like we accused you of some heinous crime.

Oh, and saying "the 13th player would be added within a couple weeks anyway" is entirely different from saying "It won't matter anyway"

No it isn't. You are saying that it won't matter that you added the 13th player because he will be added later anyways. In other words, it won't matter. It is exactly the same thing.

If you don't understand that I really could care less.

Do you mean to say you couldn't care less? Saying you could care less suggests you do care.

Piling on? Hardly. Questioning him on a small issue of roster moves is hardly piling on. It only seems that way because he reacts with extreme defensiveness every time he is questioned which elicits further response. If all he did was disagree the conversation would have been long over.

If a person wants to be NT manager then perhaps they need to be able to accept mild criticism, especially since I seem to recall him asking for input when he was first elected.

Let's say Boykin is player #13, which I choose only because he wasn't in the 12 against Guatemala. If:

- He was to be injured in this week's cup game; or
- His owner was banned for operating many teams and didn't have him in his default lineup; or
- His owner was banned for operating many teams and did have him in his default lineup, starting

Would he really be added to the team within three weeks?

What I don't care for is a lack of understanding when I try to address and issue.

What is it you feel I don't understand? You position is perfectly clear. The issue for me is that when you are asked why not add the player later just in case, you go off about how I don't understand.

Here it is nice and clear for you. There are two options, add the player now or later. Adding the player now is almost surely fine but has a 1/10000000 chance of causing a problem. Adding the player later cannot possibly cause a problem. That makes the second option the better one.

Rather than accept that basic logic you've gone on about how I must not understand you. I've even repeated your position back to you and nothing you have said since changes anything.

I UNDERSTAND that there is almost no chance of it causing a problem. I UNDERSTAND that you are aware of the players available. I UNDERSTAND that the team has pretty much zero flexibility.

My point is, even if you DO know exactly what will happen why not do things properly just in case you are wrong.

How does that point indicates a lack of understanding.

It is inevitable that the 13th player would've been added within three weeks of the start of the season. No exceptions.

That still means the exact same thing. I'm not sure what you believe you're adding.

I don't think this is very constructive right now so please stop.
The 13th player is already in the roster. It's done. There is no point in arguing about it now.
I'm sure that if something were to happen that would cause a problem, RiP would be the first one to slap his forehead really hard.

So let's just find another topic, a much more constructive one, to chat about. I'm sure there are plenty of them to keep us busy for a very long time.