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What I would like to know is this- What does the italian community want? Does it want to be the strongest communtiy in the game AND not have other countries catch up? Does it want to continue to be a level ahead so that it can continue to wallow in its own greatness? Or would it prefer to see all communities in BB have the ability and resources and players to compete?

Because if the former is true, then your whining about unfairness is founded and at the same time egregiously hypocritical. If it is the latter, then your whining is without merit.

Salary alone isn't enough to consider finances. Ticket sales and merchandise revenue must also be taken into accout.
If an italian team has a 265k/week payroll (i couldn't find a 300k/week) and brings in 300k it is the same as a team with an 80k/ week payroll who brings in 115k/week.

I can only speak for myself and I think I made my point here (69634.81).
The economy in big countries is hard(er) and I think it's the main the reason why the number of users of bb is growing so slowly.
I don't have a solution, but I think that the main cause is that a new team created in a big country's diivision V has much lower incomes (attendance, TV contract, merchandising) than a new team created in a small country's division II.
On the other hand I agree that a top team of a small country has the right to be competitive in the B3 and that we should aim at reaching quickly an economical balance also in small countries... and that's why the solution is not trivial :)

Get a global ranking... do away with countries and lets all get in one big melting pot... leagues of 40 and play daily.......

You are only seeing things from one perspective. You aren't even considering the idea that if you want to raise income, sell a player. You could do that and have twice as much money as I make in a year. Superfly made this point just as I was formulating it so I didn't but I totally agree. If Stella Rossa Japigia sold his 70000/week guy he wouldn't get relegated. He could buy a 20k/week trainee, increase his palace (i love how you translate that word) and still be at least competitive next season. Yet, you claim you can't because you are so competitive. Well, that's what a manager game is about, making choices. It should be an honor to be competing in the top league in the game. It should also be the hardest, if it is the best.

INSERT: no offense meant to SRJ- just an example.

If the object is to create a global equality where the Division 1 teams from Lesotho can compete with the Division 1 team from China, then in the beginning some inequality seems necessary, no? Italy began in season 1. Thailand began in season 3. Is it "fair" that you had two extra seasons of training, revenue, etc.? No, it's not. Where is our compensation for that? Maybe it is happening right now.

I believe that BB has established a system that makes it clearly possible to rise up the ranks no matter which country or division you begin in, if you manage your team, tactics, training, and finances astutely. I see teams from Italy and the USA that have d.5, d.4, and d.3 trophies in their case so something must be working.



Last edited by somdetsfinest at 1/25/2009 12:16:02 PM

How much Thailand divisions(just to make an example)are developed form season 3 until now?In almost 5 season(the time to make a draftee a player of the national team,not a little time),the thai teams have not made great progresses ,so the very few teams which plays well(for thai level) have great advantages in incomes/outcomes relationship,because there is a lack of competitivity and can make more victories with a team with lower salaries and make more incomes then an italian/deutch/spanish/french/etc.. team of first division(if they have the same palace)
And there were very few team in italy in season one,not 4k teams...

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 1/25/2009 1:16:28 PM

nice thread,
anyway the main goal should be to find a balanced economy.
well i got no idea how but you guys sure find a way.
i like it as it is, i dont got the most money, the biggest arena or the best players, but overall im doin fine...
well, we will find out how big the arenas will grow, think about it as we were pioneers...
the game is still so young ^^


ps: how about an battle between bundesliga and serie a ??? could be fun ;)