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From: Calum

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Date: 6/6/2012 1:41:02 AM
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I hope so. Mine was purely related to my cup game, and i'll be interested to see how this is addressed in the upcoming rule changes. :)

From: shikago

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Date: 6/6/2012 3:39:40 AM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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wow, i completely missed the S20 news.
i don't see how they would eliminate tanking though. didn't they already do something to make it less profitable than it used to be? (salary floor + the demotion penalty for much of the following season).

as for late in the season tanking (as opposed to full season tanking)...
they didn't exactly help things with their really awful 5th place "fix" a while back...

From: AZ

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Date: 6/6/2012 9:51:41 AM
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I dont know what they could do besides have a few game tanking penalty towards your attendance. It clearly has to be something financial. Although I'd prefer it if the non-tanking teams received a benefit instead of the tanking teams receiving a penalty.

From: wozzvt

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Date: 6/6/2012 10:09:47 AM
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I dont know what they could do besides have a few game tanking penalty towards your attendance. It clearly has to be something financial. Although I'd prefer it if the non-tanking teams received a benefit instead of the tanking teams receiving a penalty.

The solution is actually really, really easy.

(1) Ramp up the effects of 30+ pt losses on future attendance.

(2) Ramp down the effects of close losses.

(3) Extend out the duration of these effects so that they last more like 4-6 games.

This both provides a motivation to keep it close and a disincentive to completely tank. And it also fixes the problem of the immediately preceding road game having undue influence on home game attendance (by smoothing out the effects over a larger window).

From: AZ

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Date: 6/6/2012 10:35:35 AM
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Love it. Wozz for BB status.

From: Calum

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Date: 6/6/2012 11:32:09 AM
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Nice pick-up! I didnt wake up early enough, lol

From: brian

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Date: 6/6/2012 12:19:52 PM
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yep, not sure what the BB's are hemming and hawwing about on this issue.

Typical Weekly Net Income: $ 470 400

15k showed up last night after i sold all my players. there's no need to overthink this.

Individually tanked games can probably be reduced as well if they reduce HCA effect (the last two seasons home teams have been winning 70% of games, compared to 60% in the NBA). I tried to win almost every road game last season which was prob not the best choice in hindsight.

Last edited by brian at 6/6/2012 12:20:33 PM

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From: brian

To: Coco
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Date: 6/6/2012 12:40:22 PM
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It turns out, that the overall away win % was not that far off from "real basketball", but that of course includes tankers, all kinds of divisions etc.


That swings both ways, as there are tanked home and road games.

One tanking team losing all their home games can reduce the overall home-win % for the league by ~5%. Last season we had 2 (airballers and edh wolves) tanking almost the whole season, dragging the percentage down to 70%.

forget about the fact that when most d.I play an away game against a half-decent team it feels like climbing Mt. Everest.


which is hard to do when it feels like that and statistically its twice as difficult to win a road game at this level compared to the real world/nba.

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
From: modred

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Date: 6/6/2012 3:35:39 PM
Myopic Marauders
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Is this where I complain about 3 straight road league games? or 2 away TV games in the second half of the season?

I don't think you can base tanking completely on the results. Would not part of tanking be sitting a significant portion of your team's payroll?

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