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252784.127 in reply to 252784.126
Date: 1/1/2014 7:12:27 AM
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How is everyone reacting to the Over-extension Tax?

Ive spent almost 600K on a couple of new staff members so as to reduce my expenses and get my liability to the Over-extension tax down.

I currently have my most expensive player on the market but I will buy him back before I give him away for a pittance.

I figure that the market has over reacted a little and that for the small amount that I might lose, that I might be better to keep him on the roster and get some wins, with the intention of selling him in a couple of weeks when the market should have settled down a little

Who has the prospect of the over extension tax affected and what action have you taken to avoid or reduce the amount of tax that you might pay?


(Thought it time we got this thread back on topic)





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252784.128 in reply to 252784.127
Date: 1/1/2014 12:49:28 PM
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It does not work here because it based on salary's in contract. You cant over extend if purchase a player off the market, because you already have paid his contract salary in the market.

But in BB world that is not the case because you pay him twice you cannot base it previous players training as a excuse to exempt a tax, that a false hood. Because players have been on teams for10-12 season which should be more than what we are getting , Im estimating 122K$ thats div 5. When we buy him for 2 mill on the market he is paid that in salary directly, its off the books., But on BB hen when he joins the team you pay him week wage salary for infinite( paid twice). Which equals being paid twice which pushes teams over the team the cap. Which is what i explained very well..


*Once a year, teams can use a mid-level exception (MLE) to sign a player to a contract for a specified maximum amount. The amount of the MLE and its duration depend on the team's cap status. The MLE is $5 million for a duration of four years for teams that are over the cap either before or after the signing, but did not pay a luxury tax in the previous season. Teams without cap room that paid tax in the previous season have an MLE of $3 million with a three-year duration. Teams with cap room, previously ineligible for the MLE, have a new MLE of $2.5 million with a two-year duration. The MLE is frozen at the stated levels through the 2012–13 season, after which it increases by 3% per season (with the percentage based on the initial amount of the exception, and not compounded.

Again bb does not a have market rule. it has team rule. it has free agent market on BB well waive selling market then there need to rules for it. If there are going to tax on a soft cap.



Before the 2011 CBA, the MLE was equal to the average NBA salary for all teams over the cap. Teams with cap room were previously ineligible for the MLE.The Mid-Level Exception for the 2008–09 NBA season was $5.585 million. The MLE was $5.854 million for the 2009–10 NBA regular season

BB does not have contracts on players ,But give team a cap which is "soft cap" on training which is a false hood because player market value. what he worth in today is not, what he worth to your team. Which lead to rules above an below

The bi-annual exception was used to sign any free agent to a contract starting at $1.672 million. Like the mid-level exception, the bi-annual exception was also split among more than one player, and was used to sign players for up to two years, with raises limited to 8% per year. This exception was referred to as the "$1 million exception" in the 1999 CBA, although it was valued at $1 million for only the first year of the agreement. "Karl Malone rule"


There is no free agent is un/ or restricted free agents on BB. If they are going to make a tax on player this plays a bigger part.

This tax does not work with out contracts the contract are infinite on BB, so in small we playing the player twice for very long time. Based on market value/training value/trading value, So in small It would best to sell to get huge heavy end in purchasing power. In small "Farm talent" and keep cheap roster

Which is what I said before in my post as team having a good player they sell for more because of LI/Lp dominance which would raise their caps to 125% in revenue to purchase also team buying power.

We can't add a real life rule to BB and neglect the whole rule and just cherry pick the rule.. To much to the rule for it to function.. we can say BB is not real life, then why are you using real life rules.?

If there is team salary cap(soft cap) then there should be a market cap and free agent as well. If we pay the buyer fee that is his salary to start. Because I bought him from the owner. I paid his salary in purchase regardless of the worth. The market will correct it if too cheap or too high.

Lie I said before fix the tactic balance and m

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 1/1/2014 12:51:07 PM

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252784.129 in reply to 252784.128
Date: 1/1/2014 1:07:52 PM
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If a div 5 team wanted to sign a old strong player for 250k, they could by using the bi-annual rules. Its a free market. You restrict a sale of team because it small mart ball club , it Hinders growth of the team. That is not Free market.

A NBBA team can buy a player for 5 mill on whim. but a division 5 team cant buy a 250k$ player to get better, just because they are div 5,, how is that fair market?

How is the NBBA buying power any different than div 5 team in the market. Teams deserve to purchase any player they can afford within the salary cap to get better, or revenue and the likes. div/league should not play a factor.


My PG of 10-12 season was worth 450k$ on them market at one point. Now about 250K$.. My exempt should be higher or 4 player my players I had for 12 season it should over 250k exempt. But I don't have that. A lot team don't have correct amount. I have spent over 2-3 million training on players since being here, a lot of other teams higher than that. If they been here 20 season. You cant use today's value and give team that. There's a back log


Using real life rules and saying BB is not real is funny to me. What about our back logs of training? They need to start coughing up number and stop being so damn silent.


Last edited by Mr. Glass at 1/1/2014 1:10:39 PM

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252784.132 in reply to 252784.130
Date: 1/1/2014 1:50:13 PM
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That is true. I agree with you 100%

but I rather use the nba than a euro team because euro player don't play taxes on their salaries.( I hope you get the joke).

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Date: 1/1/2014 2:16:53 PM
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I'm not going to get into my personal team because this not a personal issue it a bb issue. There for im going to keep it on BB. I just used my team for a example even if did buy and keep them for 10 seasons. Because the player were trained by the team for 10+ season. as for me If they ere on team for 10 season or /we amount who trained them. even if they were capped they get training. I still paid for trainer to train them every week. they popped in training for 10 season by my trainer.

That goes for every team on BB. Every team has back log of training and trained every week . My Pg has been on team for 10+ yrs. Has 232 games played.



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252784.134 in reply to 252784.127
Date: 1/1/2014 2:21:07 PM
Petrosian Club Montevideo
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true about the market overreacting. Myself, I'm still not affected, I still have a small surplus and I keep now a 103k tax exemption, with a 21-y/o MVP-potential Center still developing [I had him all last season in secondaries, so he saw only a small bump in salary], so my training exemption will grow. Luckily, in advance of these changes, preannounced -although mildly- last season, I already had a good trainer in place [lvl 5, 20k salary, for 300k buy].

Now, the interesting thing is when thinking developing other positions in my team [like SF, or PG], which I would like to start next season, I find now difficult to get 4 draft point per week to do at least a decent scouting. With the OET, I find these points obviously more valuable than before. I haven't looked at the market now for juveniles, but my guess is these guys will go $tunningly crazy. Besides, maybe people don't notice it, but there's a good slice of marketing for having your OWN draftees developed. Perhaps they don't get in the U21, but if you get one of these dudes to lead your league in anything [points, rebounds, etc], they will be worth the pain.

So all of this apparently "random" thoughts all get in the mix of strategy. It's not like the OET made them this way, no. They were like that before. But, like you said, with the market fluctuating, and people going expensive for a 18-y-o Franchise player, you kind of feel more of an urgency to clean your economy, have a good draft and develop. Basically, you want to turn into the San Antonio Spurs or the Oklahoma City Thunder, and not the Brooklyn Nets. That's TOUGH to do on the fly.

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252784.136 in reply to 252784.134
Date: 1/1/2014 3:24:14 PM
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Luckily, in advance of these changes, preannounced -although mildly- last season, I already had a good trainer in place [lvl 5, 20k salary, for 300k buy].

I hadn't expected the staff to be included, unfortunately I had just bought a L6 doctor (after a season ruined by injuries) whose salary is going to go up really quickly and at some point soon, will have to replace. Luckily I have some room before I hit the OET though.

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252784.137 in reply to 252784.127
Date: 1/1/2014 3:28:43 PM
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wow, you're full of australian players! nice. although the guy you're selling wasn't trained by you, so full OET gain there, if you're not in surplus. can you tell us your difference in marketing merchadise sales with the league average?

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