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I have not read through this thread in its entirety as well im lazy.

A couple issues that I have seen brought up and agree with are these:

- Cheating/farming
- Some people would have their countries overrun by other countries.
- What happens when supporter runs out?

Personally I dont really like the idea of a second team, at least this way. I just think timezone wise, language wise, cheating and such there would be too many things that would need to be done in order for it to be pleasant.

If it were to be implemented I think the best way would be:

- Instead of buying supporter, a one time purchase of $10(value can be reworked)
- Throwing everyone in a single world league, with players that dont have nationalities or have the nationalities of the country ones first team is from.
- Completely separating it from current server. Hell make it a whole other BB. Same rules, but everyone start off with a new team, put into divisions and leagues based on order of payment and the players that are on peoples original created teams are the only players in that league. No outside transactions, itll be like BB Season 1 all over again. Gametimes? Well it could be depending on the majority in the league. If majority are Canadian then games are at Canadian times. Or could make it so that the country that the winner of div 1 will have his countries gametime.

im not sure how B3 or the cup could work. That could be the one way that the two BBs are connected, the winner still goes to B3 and same with the cup winner, they would get crushed for the first 10 seasons of course, but eventually things would start to even out.

You can pay for the team at any time and just start in the next empty spot.

Thoughts?

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Now go back and read it Mr. Lazy and get some answers
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This sentence hurt my brain.

BB going to two teams?

That would greatly increase cheating opportunities, not just double but possibly even exponentially. By far the greatest fatal threat to the game is cheating. Decreasing revenue can be addressed in a multitude of ways. Cheating could be addressed, but BB does not appear to do so. I have found more than one cheating team already and even made a report to BB … and nothing happens. The idea that “sooner or later we catch cheaters” is in no way sufficient. Unless and until BB gets serious about policing the game as it exists now, ANY idea that carries added cheating opportunities as a side effect is poison to the game … (though I can understand why some people would try to minimize the threat that cheating represents for reasons of their own).

When an idea generates a lengthy thread dealing mostly with how to try to limit the damage that implementation of the idea would do, with very little discussion of the benefits the idea would bring, that itself is pretty telling. The “solution” is worse than the perceived problem. There are far better solutions out there.

Even the idea of throwing every new team into one stinking stew and calling it Utopia does not impress me, as it merely represents a protected playground for cheaters to hone their skills and try out new and more creative ways of cheating, which they can then import to their BB team. And BTW, the biggest threat to small countries from second teams is not simply that the country will be over-run by foreigners, but that a cabal of foreigners will move in and take over that corner of the game, much as skinheads and survivalists run corners of Idaho.

Improving the fundamentals of the game (e.g. game scheduling; *boards; training) is a sounder way to increase revenue, with the added advantage of improving the game experience of every honest player.

*Sorry, but organization of the boards in this game is incredibly poor. Finding an interesting thread (such as this one) is purely a matter of accident, and finding a particular thread a second time appears almost impossible to this newbie. So if someone wants to engage me in a discussion, this is not a likely forum. How did I find this thread in the first place?

I have read all the posts … and find the argument against second teams to be compelling. I vote NO.

Well, these forums were a bit odd to to me, in the beginning. But I've got used to them now, I don't think any changes are needed..

Holy cow I just saw this poll. Big big YES from me. If properly done it would enhance the game further, give the BBs more money, give the micronations more than 2-3 active teams and most importantly...it would add double the fun.

I have no idea why the BBs never implemented it? *-:)

We will also solve the problem of Idaho by sending the survivalists and skinheads to India, they want new managers up there. Two birds, one stone (sorry PETA).

Sure, why not. We have more people than Idaho anyway.

Cheating could be addressed, but BB does not appear to do so. I have found more than one cheating team already and even made a report to BB … and nothing happens. The idea that “sooner or later we catch cheaters” is in no way sufficient. Unless and until BB gets serious about policing the game as it exists now, ANY idea that carries added cheating opportunities as a side effect is poison to the game … (though I can understand why some people would try to minimize the threat that cheating represents for reasons of their own).

I think the issue might be on your end, not BB's end. I've reported several teams who had multiple accounts over the past 10 seasons, probably about 10-12 users and 25+ teams in total and in every instance those accounts were indeed banned. If you make the report, they will check it out and ban the teams. Not occasionally but every single time assuming that the person is actually cheating. Make sure you report what you see instead of assuming someone else will do it and it will be definitely addressed.

You appear to be new to the game so perhaps you don't realize that BB has actually banned the users you reported? The teams don't disappear or change names, they just become inactive and the only way you can tell is if the user of that team is no longer logging in to his team. Then after 6-7 weeks the team will become computerized.

Last edited by Beener not Beanerz at 1/8/2014 12:46:17 PM