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Here is Japan we are losing three long time users. They really wanted merged micro nations.
They have had so many chances to make the game better but haven't done it. We wanted merged micro nation and we got designer courts......Where is all the supporter and donation money going? It surely isn't going into the game to make it better.

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A HUGE SUCESS!! Really? 100 new users NET is a huge sucess? I invited a friend to play and he lasted 2 weeks.
WHERE IS THE APP? he asked. I think we all know where the money is going.....some old BB is sitting in a nice flat in Chang Mai Thailand eating fruit and drinking beer.
If you want new users to stick and keep playing.....Forget about advertising!! Word of mouth is much better if the game is good(which BB was in 2010). Make an APP, merge micros, seed the cup after the 3rd round. If you do these things..THEY WILL COME!!!

Last edited by Yellow cake at 10/3/2016 8:21:55 PM

In 2010 it was (almost) up to the technological standard. It has become an oldtimer now.

The engine needs an overhaul, the gameviewer needs a HTML5 version, ... So much to do and adding customizable courts after like 10 years is no big deal really.

Messing up Utopia was a big mistake - where did this money go? 10k made with the first batch of users, could habe funded an App EASILY.

Is that true? I mean, do you know of any apps out there that only cost $10k?
I'm asking both out of honest curiosity and based on some unrelated app development conversations I've had where they are many times more expensive.

Is that true? I mean, do you know of any apps out there that only cost $10k?
I'm asking both out of honest curiosity and based on some unrelated app development conversations I've had where they are many times more expensive.

It depends on the things you want an app to do, prices range from a few hundred bucks to 500k. I had interest in a pretty complex gaming app and got offers from freelancers ranging from 5-15k. Unfortunately a pretty similar game was released in the meanwhile, so my plans did not materialize.

An app that would allow us to set lineups and watch the games would be quite cheap I assume, but the problem would probably be the very outdated infrastructure we have in this game.

If you want to buy existing apps/games and get them redesigned:
https://flippa.com/apps
http://www.chupamobile.com/

Get somebody to code for you:
https://www.freelancer.com
https://www.upwork.com/

If the BBs WANT to do something, there are ways to get it done. I think wasting the ad money for an app, would have been much more successful.

Word of mouth is much better if the game is good(which BB was in 2010).

Besides more users, in what way was the game better in 2010 than it is now?

Back in the days you could actually compete and catch up pretty soon, nowadays your first few weeks look like this:

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/276470/schedule.aspx

No chance to buy decent prospects, no chance to add players with a long term perspective... If I start a game I want a carefree, fun experience, not a week long drag just to win my first game...

What Knect said.....

In 2010 it was (almost) up to the technological standard. It has become an oldtimer now.

The engine needs an overhaul, the gameviewer needs a HTML5 version, ... So much to do and adding customizable courts after like 10 years is no big deal really.

Messing up Utopia was a big mistake - where did this money go? 10k made with the first batch of users, could habe funded an App EASILY.

Also...the lack of options in 2010. There are better games on my iPhone now. The football app I am playing is basically the same thing as BB....train players, buy players....but one big difference...I CONTROL THE PLAYERS WHILE I AM PLAYING THE GAME.
No stupid text, no Xs or Os....real time, I control everything.

No chance to buy decent prospects, no chance to add players with a long term perspective... If I start a game I want a carefree, fun experience, not a week long drag just to win my first game...

Got ganged up a couple of years ago for saying it can't take over a year in order to be competitive. At the end of the day some compromises ought to be made:
-a full arena shouldn't cost $7 million, irrespective of whether such a large arena is useful or not (I'm just going to observe that those who say you don't need a 20k arena are also those who say you should expand the arena as much as you can as there is no drawback to it)
- a new team shouldn't just have a trainable player, it should have 2 trainable players (allstar or better and in micronations superstar or better) and another 2-3 decent players. Make a waivers list for new teams where they can pick up FA who are not eligible to go on the TL because they are too bad
- people made forums post in the past to help new managers, maybe that could have been incorporated in tooltips

There is a million things that can be done to help new managers, what has been done (the trainee) is something but I don't think it's nearly enough. The hurdle that you need to play for months and months before you can actually feel like you're getting somewhere is the main issue here.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/4/2016 6:16:55 AM

Please don't agitate me on the trainee. The guy I got on my Utopia team is more or less hot garbage.

$ 7 million for the arena is a bargain, considerin how much players cost these days. The expansion is the least problem actually.