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From: Rycka

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Date: 10/16/2010 10:31:37 AM
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b) If you watch the transfer list for a while, you will see a few real-existing "500k monsters" that no 250k player will be able to outplay, certainly not at C.


just an example: (12159). neither team played inside. but 250k salary center on spain's roster performed better than 500k center of lithuanians team

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Hard to imagine that a center will perform better in a slow than in a run and gut offense...

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look at fg% and rebounds. 250k player defended and rebounded better than 500k player. both teams played same defensive tactics. don't just look to points, consider defense also.

From: CrazyEye

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then you should considere the teammates too, and yes the offense also affects rebounding at least in the rating(and the rebounding rating seems to me the most usefull Rating).

From: Rycka

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yeah i do understand that there's many things to consider, but what i wanted to say with that example is that it's not impossible that 250k won't perform better than a 500k player.

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I would be pleased if you answer to my last post

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 10/16/2010 11:03:51 AM

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But the best players in every single position are generally the players with the best primary skills,right?


im not sure it's always right.

The point is that,the best players at some position(mainly big mans) are not affordable by the best teams because of salary formula,without losing competitivity


this again implies that the best players are the highest wage players, and BB-Patrick was saying you should separate this.

Now,you can say that you find this situation good or bad,explaining why with your arguments,but you can't escape from this starting point


i don't know it's good or bad.

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Date: 10/16/2010 11:18:23 AM
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look at fg% and rebounds. 250k player defended and rebounded better than 500k player. both teams played same defensive tactics. don't just look to points, consider defense also.


We don't know the stamina value of both players, that has a huge influence on the individual ratings too - so a discussion based on a single event won't take us anywhere...

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Date: 10/16/2010 11:24:21 AM
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The point is that,the best players at some position(mainly big mans) are not affordable by the best teams because of salary formula,without losing competitivity


this again implies that the best players are the highest wage players, and BB-Patrick was saying you should separate this.

When the best and highest salary player coincide,you can't just separate this.It's a non-sense

Now,you can say that you find this situation good or bad,explaining why with your arguments,but you can't escape from this starting point


i don't know it's good or bad.

It's the nucleus of the thread,I don't understand why you feel the need to post in this thread if you don't want to talk of this argument

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 10/16/2010 11:27:12 AM

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Date: 10/16/2010 11:24:26 AM
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We don't know the stamina value of both players, that has a huge influence on the individual ratings too - so a discussion based on a single event won't take us anywhere...


and this also proves that we cannot say which are the best players, as no one here knows it exactly. so why we are arguing here, if creators of this game already said which players are the best? we should base our opinion on what we are told from creators. unless someone have done reverse engineering on this whole game and knows exactly what BB's do know.

From: aigidios

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Date: 10/16/2010 4:18:10 PM
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I think that the main problem is that once you have any skill overtrained, its simply impossible to beat no matter what. So if there will be fighting team with multiskilled players against monster one, and will have worse primary skills like shot and defence by (lets say) 5 levels, will not be able to do almost anything. Other skills are supporting these primaries, but if there isnt anything to support, doesnt really matter that your players can be faster better at passing or whatever.

So maybe Im wrong, but I think that salary increase kind of compensate this problem.

Last edited by aigidios at 10/16/2010 4:18:43 PM

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