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125704.13 in reply to 125704.12
Date: 12/30/2009 2:38:36 PM
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Yes, it common knowledge that the Team Ratings are inaccurate and useless, and the Matchup Ratings are way better to look at.


The match-up ratings are not so useful, either. You can see if you were jobbed in the game, but that's about it. It gives you no idea why (except: my SG took all the shots, but he was a crap option). I do not subscribe to the belief that the team ratings are useless, but it is an easy way out if you do not want to discuss the issue. There is no other way to analyze matches unless you know the skills of all the players.


A few months ago I made this thread exactly about this problem, I changed my mind now. Maybe you can have a read there, there are some great responses of BBs in there (112356.1).


You will see that I replied quite frequently there, trying to get a better understanding of the situation. I would be interested to know what changed your mind, since there is no possible way to discuss the results from matches.



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125704.14 in reply to 125704.13
Date: 12/30/2009 2:51:43 PM
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I do not subscribe to the belief that the team ratings are useless, but it is an easy way out if you do not want to discuss the issue.


Lol you've got to be kidding me.

(btw post 2 in that thread compared with making changes to my team that seem to have worked changed my mind)

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 12/30/2009 2:58:17 PM

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125704.15 in reply to 125704.14
Date: 12/30/2009 3:05:09 PM
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Lol you've got to be kidding me.


Not really.

Every time I came with an argument, you changed the rules. First, you said flow was the problem. Then I came with an example where the flow was equal. Then, you said the match ratings were the problem and I should look at match-up ratings. I pointed out the flaw in looking only at match-up ratings.

So that leaves us where? Really, I want to discuss this and get to the root of the issue. If there is no way to have a discussion about this because the BB dynamics do not allow it, just say so. Otherwise, let's discuss.

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125704.16 in reply to 125704.14
Date: 12/30/2009 3:07:49 PM
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So what do I say when someone sends me this private mail:

I really believe that its time to tweak the game engine. So unfair for big men trainers.

Run of the Mill Canadian Manager
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125704.18 in reply to 125704.17
Date: 12/30/2009 3:24:50 PM
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It's not cool ...
if train outside player is the only solution to win :p

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From: JohnnyB
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125704.20 in reply to 125704.18
Date: 12/30/2009 3:36:47 PM
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Exactly my problem. I am so frustrate being a big men trainer. My C had a game with the NT 7-10 with my NT playing run and gun, against C with 3x his salary,and then my next game he couldnt buy a basket against equal big man. The offensive flow was similar (less for me). Also my 70kSG failed to make a single basket, with my team playing CT against normal. Indeed the big men paying so much salaries to get back so little.

Edit:Even it the offensive flow is so important then makes the guards very important, way more than the big men. The fact that as a big men trainers we dont have the option to train passing except if we sacrifice wins or being farm teams just make the things even harder. Now i really wonder why i should bother to train IS for my big men? why not make them jump shooters and play run and gun?

Last edited by JohnnyB at 12/30/2009 3:48:39 PM

From: Exos
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125704.21 in reply to 125704.20
Date: 12/30/2009 4:09:08 PM
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The new engine does not rely on team ratings as heavily as the old engine. However it is exactly in the Team Ratings where it is more easy for inside players to get high ratings out of it. Just get a monster center and there you go.

I like the new engine. Please don't change it again

Cheers, Exos

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125704.23 in reply to 125704.2
Date: 12/30/2009 4:15:31 PM
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If had the players i would play look inside like this: 2 point guards as PG and SG AND their passing/handling skills higher than jump shoot. At least this makes all the sense. In real basket, a player which better skill is jump shot will try to hit the basket more often than to find a team mate for a clear shoot. And the inverse also applies. I think this is the reason why you see your guards shooting more than your inside men in as inside tactic.

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