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155277.13 in reply to 155277.11
Date: 8/27/2010 11:38:56 AM
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--Note I can send you a list of teams that can guide you on pricing decisions...I have good examples for all sizes except bleachers. This is because bleachers have very little pricing differences with very large size differences. They also take longer to build which complicates cash flow and build times. Lastly, because of the lower price, they just are not as profitable to build--but the payback period is shorter, which is important in reality.

My calculation depends on 3 variables. 1) ticket prices, 2) fan appreciation, 3) PR Manager. From what I figure the most suitable or best teams in div 5 that are non-relegated versions can sell 16-20 boxes at 400. This would be based on 1) having a strong season, 2) having league leaders, 3) having a good last season, 4) having a good PR Manager, 5) record (no losses preferably). Now, my feeling is I can seat 16@400 = 6400. However, I will charge 480 because I will not have enough built in time to make use of the lower price (so I hedge expecting 2 more home games before playoffs).
The other consideration, if you charge minimum prices, you don’t have to play with your pricing at all. You know how much you can fit, and thus can keep building until sellout point. This is a good option in lower divisions. However, the math dictates that you do not go minimum pricing until you are within 10% of the lowest price without selling out.

Last edited by lawman at 8/27/2010 10:18:07 PM

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155277.14 in reply to 155277.11
Date: 8/27/2010 12:29:51 PM
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I am currently making 4.9K on my luxury boxes and that's probably not even the max I can make...I think your calculations are off...

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155277.15 in reply to 155277.14
Date: 8/31/2010 10:13:13 AM
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Yes you did sell 6 at 800 your last game. It looks like you sold 7 the two previous games, but at what price?

This is one of the many difficulties with trying to estimate prices--the historic data shows only seats, not the prices that were in effect on the day of the game.

I may take a stab at trying more luxury boxes this season.

As to the comparison I made to the Boss' arena, I did follow his moves all last year and he did not sell all his ten seats until he cut the price to 400, so I know that to be true.


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155277.16 in reply to 155277.11
Date: 8/31/2010 10:27:06 AM
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Conclusion, you can only make $4 grand per week from luxury boxes in D V.


My sons DV team made $4500 from Luxury box sales in his last game.

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155277.17 in reply to 155277.13
Date: 8/31/2010 10:28:33 AM
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This is a good analysis, particularly of the bottom levels. I never tried that because I do not want to overbuild due to cost.

The drawback to your approach is that you will have spent $256,000 to make $6400 per week, a return of 2.5% per game, while I have spent $80,000 to make $4000 per week, a return of 5% per game. In a game of limited resources, I prefer my approach.

If one is to buy and sell a lot like Boss, those profits can fund the overbuilding without any negative carrying cost consequences. It simply requires more time to churn players, something I find tedious.

So I think there needs to be two versions of 'How to Build Your Arena' One for people who have the time and inclination to accumulate trading profits, and one for players who only want to look in on BB for a few minutes several times per week.


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155277.18 in reply to 155277.11
Date: 8/31/2010 11:10:19 AM
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Conclusion, you can only make $4 grand per week from luxury boxes in D V. I have confirmed that with considerable surveying last season, as well as checking from my notes back in seasons 3, 4 and 5 when I first tried this game out.

I sold 5 boxes at my last home game for 900 each, which is $4500.

I cut my price for the box seats down to 650 each, and I have 15, so I'll see what happens tonight.


Edit: I sold 8 at 650 tonight.

Last edited by j9s3 at 8/31/2010 9:51:56 PM