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I wanted to look at more than just shot distribution. The interesting thing is that I shot way more 3pt with inside iso than I did with look inside. Also, the strength of my guard is passing doesn't appear to be used well in this offense.

Further more stats are king!

The idea of isolation is that the best players are given the ball and they have to create shots. This would mean that success is less dependant on passing.

I imagine, though have no stats to back it up, that driving would be a key skill for isolation.

Hopefully the Parrot can get some data and include it into his Coach Parrot tool soon.

Inside isolation: Orlando Magic or Raptors when bosh was still around, with a dominant Inside player to post up or drive and when double team comes, he kicks it out.

Outside isolation: A player who can drive and finish or dish it out like Derrick Rose is doing now.

One correction:

IN BB, Iso is not ran through a specific player. Instead it seems to be ran based on the position a player is playing. Last night my best player was my C. Inside Iso ran more plays for my PF than my C. I think the style is best for teams that have both strong PF and Cs. Not just one. Since in iso if your player isnt open he kicks out, I believe passing is more important than in the other inside offenses.

I did the Outside Iso in my game last night, set it to TIE, expecting to lose the game, and ended up doing a lot better than I'd thought- here's some raw stats for the game.

My starting SG played the full 48 minutes, and took 25 of the team's 89 shots, roughly 28% of the total shots taken.
My starting PG payed the full 48 minutes, and took 7 of the team's 89 shots (missing them all, might I add?), a bit less than 8% of the total shots taken.
The SF Position was split 26/19/3 between 3 players, with some stats not quite accurate, because two of the three got a couple minutes at Center. I'll estimate that 29 of the team's 89 shots were taken at SF, about 30% of the total shots.
The PF position was played by the same guy the full 48 minutes. He took 12 shots during the game, about 13% of the total shots. He also led the team with 13 rebounds.
The Center was split between 5 players (strangely enough!?!) with 44 of those minutes being split between 3 players that can provide me reasonable statistics, because the other 4 minutes were by players who played mostly SF.

The team's rebounding suffered severely. Only 36 rebounds is the lowest number of rebounds the team has gotten since season 11 (my first season in BB). That being said, 13 of those 36 rebounds, over 1/3 of the total, were made by the Power Forward. The starting Center, who played 34 minutes, only had 2 rebounds. He also fouled out.

20 assists is a large number for my team; the average my team usually gets is around 13-16 a game.
At least 5 and at most 9 of those assists were made by the Center position, the reason I say this is because of the one player who got 3 minutes at Center and 26 at SF, who had 4 assists. The starting center had 5 assists in 34 minutes.
4 assists were produced from the SG position, and 4 were produced byt he PF position. 2 assists were produced by the PG, and the remaining assists (at least 1, and at most 5) were by the SF.

Thank you for the post on Outside ISo. Seems as though outside iso focuses on SG and SF. Driving would be a key. I am curious to find out what the other pos need to be successful in this offense.

So what is the pace like??

Really, really good post this one. All we need is another 300 to get some quantitative data...

As asked by another poster, I can't specify how fast the pace was of the game featuring Outside Iso, but...

Knowing he was using Look Inside, a 4 of 5 pace (I'm use a number system to judge pace so that I know, 5 being fastest, 1 being the slowest.

In the past, I've played a majority of Run and Gun, which is a 5 on my system, I'd played a couple of games against look inside. The most recent of which was a game in which the total number of shots taken was 190, with 22 total turnovers. Comparing this to a Look Inside vs Outside Iso game, in which there were 186 shots taken and 20 turnovers, I'd estimate the pace of an Outside Iso offense to be around a 3.7-4.0 on a 5 point scale.

Looking back, I found an additional set of data which might be helpful. Late last season, I played a scrimmage. I hadn't noticed until now that my opponent used Outside Iso (and Outside Box and One). The data is a bit skewed due to players playing multiple positions during the game, but I'll try to estimate to the best I can.

WOW, this data is gonna be hard to sum up about right- one guy played 3 different positions it appears.

SF took about 35 of 101 shots- that's 34.65% of all shots. 13 of those shots were 3 point shots.
SG took about 23 of 101 shots- that's 22.77% of all shots. 16 of those shots were 3 point shots.
PG took about 12 of 101 shots- that's 11.88% of all shots. 4 of those shots were 3 point shots.
PF took about 20 of 101 shots- that's 19.08% of all shots. 2 of thsoe shots were 3 point shots.
C took about 12 of 101 shots- that's 11.88% of all shots. 1 of those shots was a 3 point shot.

The team was much better than me, however, so this data's a bit different than an equil-ish matchup.

63 rebounds for the team, divided 28 to the C, and 15 to the PF.
15 turnovers, 6 of which were given by the PF position.
19 assists, including 8 for the starting PG, 6 for the starting SG, and 4 for the C.

Minutes were divided up in this way:
Pos-Start-Backup
PG-37-11
SG-35-13
SF-44-4
PF-43-5
C-47-1

*The backup for PG, SG, and SF were all the same guy, making the data a bit rough.

The two bits of data on Outside Isolation I have provided show that SF and SG are the primary offensive shooters, similar to Base Offense, but that more of the shots are 3 point attempts. I don't think I'm gonna use Outside Iso much, other than to provide data via scrimmages.