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189279.13 in reply to 189279.12
Date: 7/10/2011 1:46:55 PM
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I don't necessarily disagree there. But training a SF needs time, no matter what kind of SF you want. If anything, you should tell people not to train SFs if they aren't experienced managers and do need to have success soon. Which is more or less what you told them, yes; but the advice shouldn't be to train badly skilled SGs but to train Guards as is. You can still use a Guard as a SF some time - just don't expect him to be reliable defensively or flexible offensively.

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189279.14 in reply to 189279.13
Date: 7/10/2011 1:56:09 PM
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But training a SF needs time
And therefore real SF training isn't recommended in 5th division ;-) In higher division incomes are higher and therefore development and promotions are more important than real SF. Real SF is needed earliest in 2nd division.

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189279.15 in reply to 189279.14
Date: 7/10/2011 2:02:07 PM
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Did you even read my post beyond the point you quoted? That's exactly what I was saying.

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189279.16 in reply to 189279.15
Date: 7/10/2011 2:10:41 PM
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So we have conclusion ;-)
My answer wasn't in opposition to Your post, I wanted only to stress my point ;-)

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189279.17 in reply to 189279.16
Date: 7/10/2011 2:55:52 PM
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I'd say it'd be 6'7", it's a decent height to train inside skills and it won't take too long to train shooting and OD, it's also the best for 1vs1 on forwards, so it'll increase your training efficiency all around.

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189279.18 in reply to 189279.7
Date: 7/10/2011 8:21:23 PM
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I think 6'6-6'9 is the best. I also would have two SF's, one that can bang inside and one that can shoot the lights out. I have seen an increase in managers using PF's and the SF spot and running LI. The best way to combat this is have a no joke shooter SF with good inside skills...He will light up the PF at the SF spot. And then I have my banger SF( wondrous OD prolific ID good Inside skills) I use him when I play teams that play PG's at SF...Then you just beat them up...
Right now I am working on a PF who is 6'6...should be a fun journy....

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189279.19 in reply to 189279.12
Date: 7/11/2011 2:39:32 AM
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Goal of this game isn't to have real SF ;-) Goal of this game is to win ;-)
In 5th division good SF isn't needed. In 5th division quick development is needed and therefore 175cm for SF is the best height ;-)
You were in different situation because You received club in 3rd div. But realities in 5th div are different. Manager should promote to 3rd div. as soon as possible and then he will need better players than he can train himself alone. After promotion to 3rd he could think about real SF.


mmh i don't think so, if you had the oppurtunity to train a good SF prospect last division is ideal. Because you can use him off position, and he is still strong, so it is easier to combine succes and ideal training then in more advanced leagues. And it is the most difficult Training, but you don't need an Master to do it, so you could get the necessary knwoledge by reading quite fast too.

About the topic, SF height is pretty difficult to say - yeah probaldy 1.90-2.00m are ideal, but the difference in training time isn't that huge because you had to train stuff which is in favour for big player and for small players so that a better basic skill set is more important in my eyes and not optimal size in this cas eshould be considered then for the type of the SF.

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189279.20 in reply to 189279.19
Date: 7/11/2011 3:44:56 AM
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I don't see any reason not to train a real SF immediately. SFs are one of the cheapest positions to train in the game given you are training them balanced and not stacking them on JS. Plus it is invaluable to be able to train them at PG and C at any time without suffering as a team.

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189279.21 in reply to 189279.19
Date: 7/11/2011 5:44:03 AM
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You received team practically in 1st division so You don't know realities in lower divisions too ;-)
You're right, SF must be trained out of position. And therefore you need better team than opponents. It isn't easy because currently in 5th division in first season you must fight against teams which played in BB 2-3 seasons. And quick promotion is the most important thing because development in 5th division is very hard, even almost impossible. For example if manager in 5th div needs more seats, he must pay the same price as 1st div team.
And after few promotions you must exchange squad anyway (because you need better players than you can train alone, because promotions could be faster than training speed), so if you haven't real SF it isn't big problem.

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189279.22 in reply to 189279.21
Date: 7/11/2011 6:24:53 AM
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You do forget, however, that well-trained SFs (not your SGs playing SF, I'm talking about the real deal) are usually quite a bit cheaper than other players with the same amount of training. Also, if noone trains SFs in DV, such a player becomes a huge mismatch. So you save money compared to your opponents while getting an advantage. That money can then be spent on Arena enhancements etc. I call that a competitive advantage.

Plus, if promotions go too fast for your main trainee, train him in Cup/Scrimmage games and buy other trainable players that suit your current demands better. Really, itt's not rocket science.

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189279.23 in reply to 189279.22
Date: 7/11/2011 6:36:14 AM
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Currently training isn't so profitable as earlier.
Good SF (enough for 2nd division) costs 500-800k (and for sure not more than 1,5M). Better SF isn't needed for 5th div team ;-)
It's better to make promotion with salaries 20% higher than spend next season in lower division with salaries 20% lower.

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