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189480.13 in reply to 189480.12
Date: 7/12/2011 9:11:28 PM
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Defense leads to offense. Turnovers and steals get your team possesion and can lead to easy baskets on the fast break.

Last edited by Mike Rice at 7/12/2011 9:11:39 PM

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189480.14 in reply to 189480.13
Date: 7/12/2011 9:14:55 PM
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There's really not much fast break mechanics in this game unfortunately, and that's evidenced by the play by play.

So that argument is kind of moot though it is true in reality.

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189480.15 in reply to 189480.14
Date: 7/12/2011 9:17:30 PM
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Either way steals do lead to posession which gives you more offensive opportunities.

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189480.16 in reply to 189480.8
Date: 7/12/2011 9:18:56 PM
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Uh. Highest PF =/= best offense.


You have probably the best offense. In the game you played you were .5 lower than his OS despite playing a neutral offense.

Plus the ridiculous rebounding.


So in the end, if and when you win your league, the best offensive team still won.

Last edited by Bigcatjc at 7/12/2011 9:20:05 PM

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189480.17 in reply to 189480.14
Date: 7/12/2011 9:24:24 PM
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i promise you I will stop you from scoring then if I miss on my end I will get the O-rebound and put it back in.

A team like you are talking about if you were in my div 3 i woulda beat you to death. I am not talking about having 15 def and 7 JS. But if you have 12 - 13 def and 12 js or is you are pretty good. you do have to have a well rounded team. also your team has to feed off one another. if you have good inside scorers and crappy passing your inside will never score.

I want my team to have the fundamentals like i said previously. Def, handling,passing and rebounding. I can tell when the game engine is running and it says so and so passed to your other guy as he was driving to the basked I know before I read it all if he scored or not by who passed him the ball.

Great thing about this game is there are a lot of ways to win so do what you want and have fun doing it.

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189480.18 in reply to 189480.10
Date: 7/12/2011 9:24:32 PM
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I agree those numbers earlier in the thread are really high. Sure, it would be great, but not essential.

I'm probably in an easy DIVIV, but I just ran through it in first place and have the league's #1 defense.

PG: 11OD/5ID
SG: 7/3
SF: 9/7
PF: 5/11
C: 3/11



I don't mean to be rude, but you are going to be absolutely crushed in D3 with those defensive ratings. And your SG should be your best perimeter defender, not the worst in the backcourt.

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189480.19 in reply to 189480.17
Date: 7/12/2011 9:31:03 PM
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Yeah passing and rebounding are apart of offense?

What do you think, I'm talking about power training JS and running Motion every game?


My criticism is against guys who train Pressure every week and have no offense whatsoever.

Of course it is important to build a balanced team. But I definitely am going to make sure my PG has 14 or so passing, my guard can shoot the ball when facing a zone, and my SF/PF/C are all around beasts at rebounding, IS, driving and passing before I worry about getting the entire backcourts OD to 16 or so while they all have 7 JS and 5 JR and can't pass worth a lick.

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189480.20 in reply to 189480.19
Date: 7/12/2011 9:35:03 PM
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ya that would be crazy, i like to build my guys pretty evenly. I dont power train any one thing. keep it all fairly even with my defense being slightly higher.

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189480.21 in reply to 189480.18
Date: 7/12/2011 9:54:33 PM
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It's not rude. I'm surprised I'm doing well in D4 (especially on defense) and don't expect that it will hold up in D3. But as to the question the poster asked, what defense is necessary for D4, those guys seem to work.

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189480.22 in reply to 189480.19
Date: 7/12/2011 9:58:06 PM
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I agree with you on this point that a guy who trains only defense will get crushed. A good defense compliments a good offense and vice versa.

My point when it comes to defense is this:

If you have young trainees, build their defense up first because if you don't it will only take longer when they get older. Training the offense has shown to be quicker, based only on my personal observations, as compared to trying to train defense.

Let the defense be the solid foundation you build your offense upon. Don't get frustrated, Bigcat. I know you're passionate about offense from my time in III.4 with you.

As far as my stance on defense, when a team has a good defense, it can exponentially increase the effectiveness of the offense. An offense that can slow their pace down and concentrate on running their offense efficiently because their defense makes the easy stops they are supposed to make, increases the odds of picking up a win. However, a defense that fails to make the easy stops increases the amount of work they need to do on the offensive end.

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189480.23 in reply to 189480.22
Date: 7/12/2011 10:09:11 PM
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Wow thanks everyone for the quick response!

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