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From: ibarix

To: Duck
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203187.14 in reply to 203187.1
Date: 11/25/2011 4:30:25 PM
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If you put players like this...

PG trainee - trainee - trainee
SG sg1 - sg2 - none
SF sf1 - sf2 - none
PF pf1 - pf2 - none
C c1 - c2 - none

...and tell your trainer to strictly follow depth chart, I think you won't have problems (unless you're leading around +60 in which case trainer ignores you and puts someone in instead of your trainee - which I witnessed on my trainee twice this season already). :))

From: GM-hrudey

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203187.15 in reply to 203187.13
Date: 11/25/2011 10:27:36 PM
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Well, your opponent was the one at the line

Well read carefully. Want me to quote it? This is what you read:
4 3:19 104 — 33 H. bin Jamlus (H) attempts a jumper from the elbow
4 3:19 104 — 33 D. Viejo (A) is called for a shooting foul.
4 3:19 104 — 33 Free throw missed by H. bin Jamlus (H).
4 3:19 104 — 34 The free throw by H. bin Jamlus (H) is up and in.

Right after that free throw, this happened:
4 3:07 105 — 34 D. Viejo (A) sinks the free throw.
4 3:07 105 — 34 A. bin Kassim (H) will come off the bench to replace A. bin Ariffin (H) at PG.
4 3:07 105 — 34 Free throw missed by D. Viejo (A).

I didn't know my opponent had a player playing away who has the same name as my player. -___-

and since you only had two subs I think it wouldn't have been a problem either.

Hello~ My two subs were at C and PF. You could at least have thought of a better reason, like because the FT was shot by my sub. It's more logical than this -___-

Sorry if my reply was a little bit rude, but I became a certain Captain Jean-Luc Picard demotivational poster after reading your post.


Rudeness is no problem, although I would prefer if you saved it for when I was actually wrong. ;) Look at the match in the viewer again and fast forward to 35 minutes 15 seconds . With 0:43 seconds left, Mohd Nafuzi bin Hassan is called for a shooting foul, his player Abdul Samad bin Kassim goes to the line, he hits the first, then you see some substitutions followed by the text: "It looks like that we're now in garbage time" -- while his player is at the line. (I hope none of the names were misspelled, but I was typing them in directly since I can't copy and paste from the viewer).

The point I am trying to make is that when you see the text "It looks like we are in garbage time", your coach will try to replace all of your starters with bench players. Normally, with 9 players, that's no problem for a trainee who is the only player set at his position.

Now contrast that with the game of the original poster. Fast forward to 34 minutes 20 seconds, and at 1:31 his PF is fouled. Garbage time is called, and the two backups on the bench come in. But because the PF can not be replaced since he is shooting FTs, the backup PF goes to replace the PG, despite the orders being set correctly.

I hope that my explanation makes some sense to you now. The situation is only a problem when the garbage time substutions are made when one of your starters is going to the FT line. That player's substitute will still come in, and will replace one of the players who does not have a backup in otherwise. If you use the traditional 9 player lineup when you're training 1 player, that substitute will replace your trainee.

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203187.16 in reply to 203187.14
Date: 11/25/2011 10:31:09 PM
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If you put players like this...

PG trainee - trainee - trainee
SG sg1 - sg2 - none
SF sf1 - sf2 - none
PF pf1 - pf2 - none
C c1 - c2 - none

...and tell your trainer to strictly follow depth chart, I think you won't have problems (unless you're leading around +60 in which case trainer ignores you and puts someone in instead of your trainee - which I witnessed on my trainee twice this season already).)


Normally he wouldn't, but if the coach makes the garbage time substitution when one of his non-trainees is at the line (SG1, PF1, whatever), that player's backup will replace the trainee. The coach will try to put a backup in for every starter, and normally having no backup set for the PG and one for the other positions works, but if the coach can't put PF2 in for PF1 because PF1 is at the free throw line, he's going to just replace someone else.

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203187.17 in reply to 203187.16
Date: 11/26/2011 3:57:58 AM
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it happened to me as well. It IS ridiculous! I don't see it being fixed though, cause all the position are mixed up in BB and pretty arbitrary.
How about guys "helping defend play" from the bench. I see that every now and again.
It certainly takes you out of this beautiful illusion what is BB.