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From: Fluff

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211878.13 in reply to 211878.1
Date: 3/3/2012 2:58:08 AM
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Have you given him the same training each week for the last couple months?
i would imagine you could get to about 70k from my own experience (but there is no science/collective evidence behind this!). so try out the programme someone suggested above as a guide.
I also tentatively hypothesise that it is possible to have "sub levels" of potential -either that or it is something to do with the combination of skill mixes / skill sums that may get you there sooner.

i have a 25 year old big man who i had trained outside for about 5 or 6 weeks with no success, thinking he had capped (PA salary 70k), but then i got a side pop then the pop i wanted after this week.

some big skills (like rebounding) will add a fair bit of salary on per pop, so depending on the skills set of your player and what skill you are trying to pop, you might only get 1 or 2 more before reaching his cap (assuming he's not there already).

however if you train his outside skills, this probably wont add much if anything to his salary (depending on his skillset now) and so you would get more pops. But bear in mind he is over 2m tall so training his outside skills will be a little slower anyway.

From: Coach_D

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211878.15 in reply to 211878.14
Date: 3/3/2012 4:26:06 AM
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When youre player cap can you update the total skill points you've managed to get him or PM it or whatever.My player got 78 i started train him when he was 19yr (20121844) keeping his salary small and even up his skills soon he would be rocognized as SF and have 3-4 high sub levels skill which i intentionaly leave to the cross training or later after cap struggle.

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211878.16 in reply to 211878.1
Date: 3/3/2012 5:38:33 AM
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ive got a per. alstar who has hit the 'soft cap' so to speak and his salary is only $52k or something like that.

using the formulas available on buzzermanager and such, my guy has a potential score of 21.15, with per. allstars having a capped score of 20-22, with 22 being the hard cap.

my guy is a PF - now lets say this is ur guy, if u train RB, or IS, thats going to add (roughly) 0.8 to his potential score. (21.15 + 0.8 = 22.05)...this value is above the hard cap and so, im not sure what would happen but im guessing that u will never get this pop.

HOWEVER, if u r training DR for example, that only adds 0.03 to his potential score. so u could potentially get pops in that skill instead.
once in the soft cap area, ur training does slow though.
does that all make sense?



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211878.18 in reply to 211878.17
Date: 3/3/2012 8:05:14 AM
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YES! sorry my mistake, i stand very much corrected, i was remembering values off the top of my head and got them wrong obviously.

thanks for the correction.

That player registers as a 'Superstar' potential player in moutlinho's Potential calc's tool, (obviously because of the potential score above 24)
and he gets classified as a PG?
amazing.






From: Lucifer

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Date: 3/3/2012 8:56:26 AM
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Boy I would LOVE to have this guy! What an amazing SF!

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Date: 3/3/2012 10:10:04 PM
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Don't forget that the ranges that josefka give will vary for each player. There is no way of knowing at which point your player will hit the cap until suddently you have given them five weeks of training in one skill and no pop. For example a pallstar may cap at 22.01 while an allstar may cap at 21.99 and with sublevels hidden the visible skills may actually show the allstar with better skills. So you will be angry and confused when your pallstar seems to cap first.

Also when looking at players you havent trained yourself it is not possible to know how much they have been trained beyond the cap. This is especially true for players that have been capped but then got lots more training when their team did two position training. For example you could train a killer PG and work them perfectly up to the cap. Then For the next two seasons you train jump shot for your new trainees but the capped guy is getting it too. He could easily get four JS pops, a JR and a DR pop pushing his wages up a massive amount and making him seem like he had a much higher cap than he actually did.

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211878.23 in reply to 211878.22
Date: 3/5/2012 7:38:51 AM
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So the main focus about training should be salary for monoskilled players and skills total for balanced one.
But as i see in buzzer-manager this will give you an estimate based on total skill points because i see different resoults in diferent players with the same potential.
Have you guys found anything about total skill points caps?
I'm training right now two superstar point guards, very balanced witch have at 22years one with 101 skill points and one with 99 and i have the salary cap accounrding to buzzer manager and salary calculator to about 125-140k and i don't what to be surprised by the hard cap.