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223322.13 in reply to 223322.9
Date: 8/15/2012 5:10:50 AM
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Kind of agree about Iguodala's game being in between a role-player and star. Does everything well, but not a dominant scorer who's going to draw the focus of the opposition's defense. In Denver though, seems like a much better fit with the cast of players they already have. Denver upgraded without giving up much, except for taking on his contract, but I duno if they needed that type of player to get them to the next level.


Denver got rid of 2 contracts they hated. Added a guy who, even as a "non-solitary" focus, manages 18 points per game. They slide him in there with the likes of Lawson, Gallinari, W. Chandler (off te bench), all those guys are 15+ scorers themselves too. So, Denver maintains its' "we don't have a go to shooter" model, of "everyone can drop 30 tonight if they get hot" offense, with people that can play defense and run a fast tempo. I feel this is more Iguodala's style of play anyways.

Denver wouldn't be able to get to the next level with what they had before. Faried is a bad FT shooter, and not great offensively. McGee, well, we all know his questionable bball IQ. Mozgov isn't developing as well as they'd like defensively, offensively, footwork, hands-wise.

Their biggest problem however is the super-teaming phenomenom that is happening in the NBA. Where some teams become an all-star team in itself, and then other teams, like Denver, have to make do with just finding a bunch of guys who can play well together, then try to make the best of that.

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Date: 8/16/2012 2:56:21 AM
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Their biggest problem however is the super-teaming phenomenom that is happening in the NBA. Where some teams become an all-star team in itself, and then other teams, like Denver, have to make do with just finding a bunch of guys who can play well together, then try to make the best of that.


I agree...the NBA has a problem when 5 teams have all/most of the all-stars and 25 teams have nothing. Maybe the new salary cap/luxury tax will help this problem, but if not there will be a lot of teams without a chance. Especially because in the NBA, there seems like there are fewer champions crowded (than in others sports) who were lower seeds in the playoffs.



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223322.15 in reply to 223322.14
Date: 8/17/2012 11:27:22 PM
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I agree about the Superteam crap that's starting... I hate it. I hated it when Miami did it, and I hate it still now - even tho' the team I support is doing it.
"Bad for the NBA"...

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Date: 8/19/2012 5:30:15 AM
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In agreement with all of your points.
I kind of like the super-teaming, but not so much how, more easily, franchise players can dictate where they go.
It makes for a boring regular season, but some great regular season match-ups and post-season.
I've always had the same sentiment for MLB, and only followed the sport during September and October.
I used to follow the NBA like crazy, but in recent seasons, I rather watch a couple of super-teams duke it out and tune-in around postseason time. That coupled with time.

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223322.17 in reply to 223322.16
Date: 8/19/2012 12:13:35 PM
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hate it,......i don't like super teaming, the Thunder didn't do it on purpose, but Heat and Lakers did.......now there are only like what? 5,6 teams hogging up all the stars......Thunder (not really cause of drafts) Spurs (not really), Lakers (yeah), Heat (yeah), Celtics (not really), and thats it........

then there are the teams that make do with what they got, Clippers, Nuggets, Knicks, Bucks, Bulls, Grizzlies, Suns (pre-Nash moving to LA) Mavs, Blazers, Hawks (for real) Magic (pre-Dwight moving) Pacers, 76ers, Jazz..........

Then there are teams that have trash........Rockets (now that they've destroyed their team with Lincashity and Asik BS) Magic (yup), Wizards (rising), NOLA (rising with Davis in there) TWolves (rising) Warriors, Kings, Raptors (rising), etc.

well yall see what I mean, I don't like it......I'm glad LA gonna be going down once Nash retires after his contract and then Kobe in 4 years........Then they'd be trying to do their Free Agent BS again......stealing people like nothing. I think Magic/Rockets will get the top 2 picks in the draft. then It's a Heat-Thunder re-match (i still think Thunder better than LA) and let's see from there...........

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Date: 8/24/2012 8:39:27 PM
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hate it,......i don't like super teaming, the Thunder didn't do it on purpose

That is just some complete BS. That, and along with the teams that "make do with what they got" do so because they cannot create a super team.

I can guaran-effin'-tee you that if the Thunder could find a way to add... say, Dirk Nowitzki - they absolutely would. Teams do whatever they can, and whatever their resources allow, to get better.

now there are only like what? 5,6 teams hogging up all the stars......Thunder (not really cause of drafts) Spurs (not really), Lakers (yeah), Heat (yeah), Celtics (not really), and thats it........

Err... the Thunder CHOSE to suck so they could get their stars. The Spurs lucked into getting Tim Duncan (playing alongside David Robinson) off an Admiral injury. The Celtics were the ones who STARTED this all, with obtaining KG & Allen in the first place.
Some interesting logic there.


It's a Heat-Thunder re-match (i still think Thunder better than LA) and let's see from there...........

Not sure how you throw that out with such blithe abandon. OKC barely managed to get their win over LA last season, and LA add Dwight/Nash. Sure, it may end up that way... but as currently rostered (and admittedly 'on paper'), LA are the best team out West.

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223322.19 in reply to 223322.18
Date: 8/25/2012 4:17:26 AM
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sometimes I have a gruelling hate for the lakers, and at times I hate the Thunder too forBenett literally raping seattle of a team. But if I were to choose the 1 to make it, Thunder all the way, I don't like Lakers but I don't hatem. and I SURELY don't like em after that Howard deal.........


and again everyone is right the place Howard certainly not wanted to go to is Houston, but hey with their Asik BS and Lincashity trust me, Rockets will be competing for a 1st overall pick next season.......I say they got the 2nd Pick...

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223322.20 in reply to 223322.19
Date: 8/29/2012 2:22:20 AM
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Was super teaming better in the 80's when the Lakers and Celtics managed it in a more organic manner?

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Date: 8/29/2012 5:58:38 AM
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Was super teaming better in the 80's when the Lakers and Celtics managed it in a more organic manner?


Yes.