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227913.13 in reply to 227913.12
Date: 10/4/2012 12:33:30 PM
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As you already saw by yourself, the auction option is the most simple and do able system to make, and although there are less "witnesses" to watch over the market there are also less potential cheaters and a lot less probability of having 2 teams with some sort of connection that will lead them into cheating for one another.

Also, the best witnesses for cheating in the players market are the league members of the cheater- as they get a notice for every transfer going on inside the league, if the league members will get a notice for "pick sales" aswell I believe the picks market will be "cleaner" then the players market.

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227913.14 in reply to 227913.13
Date: 10/4/2012 1:26:40 PM
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there are also less potential cheaters and a lot less probability of having 2 teams with some sort of connection that will lead them into cheating for one another.

This is generally not true, although in a randomly chosen league there would probably be no problem. Then again, there are probably no cheaters anyway in a randomly chosen league. The problem remains that pricing could not be free.

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227913.15 in reply to 227913.14
Date: 10/4/2012 3:03:18 PM
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Missed part of the discussion, still I want to come back to one of your earlier points:

"... always be cheating ... no reason not to develop the game ..."

I wholeheartedly agree BUT - the benefit of a development has to outweigh the gain for possible cheating.

You can buy any player AFTER the draft if a team is willing to part with him. There´s a HUGE market with an enormous variety of players in all price ranges. Therefore the gain for the "buying" team is probably close to non-existent if we consider the huge gambling factor in acquiring ANY player based on a scouting report. The chance to fail is huge (different from the TL, where the chance to fail is inside the buying manager´s head only).

The great benefit would be on the sellers side, who can make money without risking anything, they don´t have to spend any scouting points, they simply can generate money out of virtually nothing.

In addition, the option for cheating is obvious. It´s there and hard to deny. It´s a money transfer tool, which is VERY hard to overview or to check for the GM staff. You either make fixed prices, if there´s no buyer, there´s no sale, first one to bid wins. Or you make acutions, which is a bad idea as mentioned before.

So although your suggestion is one of the best concerning selling draft picks, it opens more bad ways of using it than it does good from my point of view.

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227913.16 in reply to 227913.14
Date: 10/4/2012 3:07:10 PM
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Another part to take in account- pick sales can only occur at the end of the season, which makes it a very uncomfortable way to transfer money between teams because there is only one chance every season to to do that- This, and everything else I mentioned in the previous post I believe can show that cheating with picks sales is a lot harder than cheating with players.

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227913.17 in reply to 227913.16
Date: 10/4/2012 3:44:11 PM
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As mentioned before - cheating with players happens in public, with plenty possible watchers taking care and intervening via Cheating Ticket.

There´s an activity low at the end of each season concerning users who are currently not involved in the playoffs, so the amount of "real" monitoring of what goes on with draft picks comes down to maybe a handful coaches at best per league. That´s VERY few people to realize shady moves.

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227913.18 in reply to 227913.17
Date: 10/4/2012 5:19:08 PM
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But those people are the most reliable cheater reporters and probably the ones who normally report about cheating in players transfers- The active managers who take part in the playoffs and get notifications for how much every player in their league is sold/bought for.

From: Yotamnor

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227913.20 in reply to 227913.19
Date: 10/5/2012 9:13:09 AM
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If you'll read my first post you'll understand that just being able to sell your darfty is not enough.

Anyways, you keep saying that this feature will open up a lot of new ways to cheat but that's it, you don't give any reason why or how.
You don't even criticize the actual feature and what it can bring to the game, all you do is just invalidating it simply because of the unbased assumption that the new market might lead to new cheating possibilities.