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From: ipsonj

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231854.13 in reply to 231854.9
Date: 12/25/2012 1:45:04 AM
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I think Forza Juventus is a little overrated.


LOL, wel, I just realized that I had the Quality win column reversed...so it indeed changed some of the rankings...now you are #2 :)


Wait a second... Forza Juventus is in second? this rating system is worse than the BCS... (just kidding)

So what determines a quality win? And can we know the secrets behind these 5 statistical categories?

I know I have 5 wins but two came at home with more effort and all my PD came from a blow-out of Burger Chefs. How does that equal second place?

From: Jason

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Date: 12/25/2012 1:55:35 AM
Arizona Desert Storm
III.1
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I think Forza Juventus is a little overrated.


LOL, wel, I just realized that I had the Quality win column reversed...so it indeed changed some of the rankings...now you are #2


Wait a second... Forza Juventus is in second? this rating system is worse than the BCS... (just kidding)

So what determines a quality win? And can we know the secrets behind these 5 statistical categories?

I know I have 5 wins but two came at home with more effort and all my PD came from a blow-out of Burger Chefs. How does that equal second place?


Well, you are tied for the 2nd best record in the league, so it's not out of line for you to be ranked so high :-)

Quality win = Road win, or win against a team currently slated to make the playoffs.

The statistical categories are Offense, Defense, Rebounds, Assists.

You get credit for 4 quality wins....obviously a case could be made that beating a punting Burger Chefs, and absent Rimrockers team on the road is not quality...but then it would become very subjective and start to be just my own personal opinion which I was trying to avoid. Winning on the road in BB is tough, and for the most part, things will average out of over the course of a season in terms of the top teams receiving punts and easy wins etc.

From: lathrop

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Date: 12/26/2012 5:32:38 PM
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yep, I was one of the teams probably expected to reply, but didn't. Holiday travels kept me off the site with barely enough time to check in. Just a not about my team, predicted free fall is a good guess of what to expect. I have played 5 of 8 games at home and have two losses, so hoevering around .500 is not out of the question. Very stacked league this year. Form and injuries will determine much for the rest of the season.

From: Jason
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231854.16 in reply to 231854.15
Date: 12/27/2012 10:46:27 PM
Arizona Desert Storm
III.1
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Wow, the BB Gods don't like me much!! I drew the #1 team in the country for the 2nd season in a row, and an NBBA team for the 3rd time in 4 seasons....the season prior to that I drew Pappy.....mean, mean, mean cup draws!!

From: Jason

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Date: 12/27/2012 11:41:18 PM
Arizona Desert Storm
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Wow, the BB Gods don't like me much!! I drew the #1 team in the country for the 2nd season in a row, and an NBBA team for the 3rd time in 4 seasons....the season prior to that I drew Pappy.....mean, mean, mean cup draws!!
Whiner! j/k

Actually, you've got a light schedule next week and you're at home, so if you ask me, I'm guessing AZ isn't too happy right now.


Yes, I had to whine, I mean vent :-)

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Date: 12/28/2012 8:01:23 AM
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Yeah, I remember that season. You were shaking in your boots. Yeah, right:-)...I think this Cup game could be the Game of the Week!

Pappy
From: Dmitri

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Date: 1/18/2013 8:50:47 PM
Delta 9
II.4
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Second Team:
Euphoria Seekers
1. AZ Desert Storm

2. Technical F

3. World Toys

4. USA Elite / Reston Thumpers

5. USA Elite / Reston Thumpers

6. 6 or 7 other teams ...



From: Dmitri
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Date: 1/18/2013 9:53:21 PM
Delta 9
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Second Team:
Euphoria Seekers
Road Record

#1 AZ DS (5 - 1)

#2 Reston (4 - 3)

#3 WIT (3 -3)

#4 Tech F (2 - 4)

#5 USA (1 - 5)

#6 OYSH (2 -4)

#7 10" (2 - 5)

#8 Delta 9 (2 - 5)

#9 Dog River (2 - 5)

#10 AZ Cacti (2 - 5)

#11 GSW (2 - 5)

#12 For. Juv. (2 - 5)

From: lathrop

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Date: 1/19/2013 12:09:31 PM
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Road Record

#1 AZ DS (5 - 1)

#2 Reston (4 - 3)

#3 WIT (3 -3)

#4 Tech F (2 - 4)

#5 USA (1 - 5)

#6 OYSH (2 -4)

#7 10" (2 - 5)

#8 Delta 9 (2 - 5)

#9 Dog River (2 - 5)

#10 AZ Cacti (2 - 5)

#11 GSW (2 - 5)

#12 For. Juv. (2 - 5)



maybe the most useless "statistical analysis" out there - ranking just behind number of blocks in the 4th quarter while playing at home and up by more than 20.

Big 8 has 2 teams not trying, did you play one or both on the road? interconference we play once, some play one or both on road some both at home. Who played Jason at his place - The other half of teams don't get that game recorded....
How about games tried to win? With teams in the cup, some league games are given away, especially on the road.

Road wins, especially at this point of the season, especially when one side as teams tanking all season long is meaningless.

From: Jason

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Date: 1/19/2013 12:26:47 PM
Arizona Desert Storm
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maybe the most useless "statistical analysis" out there - ranking just behind number of blocks in the 4th quarter while playing at home and up by more than 20..


Interesting you say this...I was thinking the exact opposite when I saw his post. I think that road wins are actually the best indication of a teams strength.


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Big 8 has 2 teams not trying, did you play one or both on the road? interconference we play once, some play one or both on road some both at home. Who played Jason at his place - The other half of teams don't get that game recorded....
How about games tried to win? With teams in the cup, some league games are given away, especially on the road.

Road wins, especially at this point of the season, especially when one side as teams tanking all season long is meaningless.


Obviously there are games that people tank, and cup considerations and all that. But that said, the best teams in any league generally try to win them all, and don't think about punting a game because they believe they can win them all. Obviously there are circumstances when you draw a solid cup team, and have two solid league games that week as well, and you simply can't play your A team 3 times in a week....but with as strong as HCA is in BB, a team that win games on the road is a clear indication of their strength. Mediocre teams can beat very good teams at home....Mediocre teams never beat good teams on the road unless the home team plays something less than their A lineup or a fluke Crunch or something.

Great posts Dmitri. way to get a good discussion going :-)

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