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they arent as good this year. st louis kills them

Its the nature of the way Brad Stephens coaches and the way they play. They weren't all that good in 09 and 10 either. But they slow down games so much that they are always in it. They can beat anybody in a one-game playoff.

I think a potential Florida Georgetown Sweet Sixteen matchup would be very interesting considering they never got to play that game on the aircraft carrier.

They never got to finish it. I didn't get out to the game but it sounded like it was a great event, other than apparently they didn't realize how likely there was to be problems with the condensation and relative cold.

Impossible you say?

By you saying impossible... Sends a message that you have never watched a march madness before.
Anything is possible in tournament.

As for your logic of why... Go back through check the schedules, check the game logs, check the fouling situations, check everything that matters.

Arizona winning the whole thing is no more far fetched than Miami winning it.

And if you are going just off seedings, you are a newbie.

This is one of the weakest march tournaments in the last 30 years. The bracket practically picks itself.
Take Illinois Colorado, Illinois loaded up wins in a pathetic non-conference schedule. CU played some teams, and despite being a horrible road team won some games. Yea it'd be more impressive résumé if the buzzer beater at AZ wasn't waved off... But still, they despite being the 10 and Illinois the 7 are the better team.

The tournament is full of such problem seedings. St. Mary's a play in?
UCLA is seeded high because they won the PAC tourney , but during year they were consistently 3-rd - 4th in PAC as a team...
Big ten also has some issues like that. Ohio state may have won tourney but they weren't the best team in big ten

Arizona is definitely underseeded. That region is odd. The two best teams in my opinion are the 6 and the 8, and that's how im picking it.

As for Colorado/Illinois, I have trouble picking teams that can't win road games, considering the nature of the tournament. Also the Big Ten was a gauntlet, and a lot of the teams there play the slow, physical style of play that does well in tournament basketball. I lean towards Illinois in that one.


I think they may have tried to play up the madness this season, with the lack of a clear favorite. In one region you have KU, Georgetown, Florida, and Michigan as the top four, and in another you have Gonzaga, OSU, New Mexico, and Kansas State. It just seems to me like the seeding is set up for unpredictability rather than competitive balance.


Last edited by yeppers at 3/18/2013 3:35:17 PM

Impossible you say?

You originally said that Wisconsin was going to knock out the Buckeyes and that Arizona would win the tournament. Both of those things can't happen. In order for Wisconsin to even play the Buckeyes, Ohio St. either has to beat Arizona or someone else does.

The Wisconsin comment was geared for the Ohio state game. Big ten title


I work 4am-11pm so news eludes me during work days.

I completely agree.

The seedings make me feel like Vegas wasn't making enough on betting so they had to change it around


Edit:

Illinois tended to be blow out when they lost.
CU was only blown out at Kansas and at cal.

Everything else was within 10.

Illinois also doesn't rebound or shoot high enough fg% for their rebounding to take Colorado I feel.

Last edited by ShadowSlam at 3/18/2013 4:10:25 PM

I'm a die hard Michigan fan but.... THEM BOYS NEED TO REBOUND. REBOUND. REBOUND. Play some D for.... SAKE! If they can do that, they can make it to the Final game honestly, but they need to get their act together, box out and get the board, don't get out rebounded by 20. Trey Burke can't do everything!!

How far do you all have Indiana going? I think they are a talented team, I just don't think they are Final Four worthy.

You actually think I have no clue what I'm talking about??? You can't say "I thing Wisconsin knocks out Ohio St." then immediately say "Arizona is gonna win it all" THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!!! I don't need to check game logs or schedules to figure that out.