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Yes, the draft is somewhat of a gamble. Sometimes you don't get the player you want, or they don't have a skillset that you like. But a lot of the time, if you scout correctly, you can end up getting some very good players. What you said about the A+ 5/5 players is completely false. All rookies have some holes, that's why there's training. Even if you believe those holes can't be fixed, which there should be very few of if they are A+, they sell for quite a lot on the TL. And the point of the draft is to get players that are trainable. They're 18 or 19 years old (if you do the scouting combine, you should get all 18 year olds), which is their fastest training year. Even if a player is 19, they can still be trained be a great player.

my whole point is top leagues managers don't even get that, if even they try the draft wont help them when salary is at 49-169k a week to compete. what can 1200-5k a week rookie do?, They will need a 17k-25k a week rookie, I highly doubt that will help ease things. It depends on the skills and potent.

My point is at least let manager see a things saying strengths rebounds, blocks, steals, defensive players.... Maybe that's what a team need. This game has speed training , A player don't need every skill in the book to help a team win.. I do abide by a balanced team. The BB draft is not fair for top teams and most teams, because some assume all the top managers are swimming in the millions, which is not true.. a lot are just getting by ..I would assume 75% are just getting by.

A lot of them are renting those players. I have never been in the top league but I see what going on by looking , and its not a good look because one day the lower team are going to be there.. Its sad it another case shut your mouth and enjoy within the matter. It really is.

Reality or not. There is such thing as a sure thing and ready to perform.. Ill leave the matter alone, because it dead end road. No one care

And this wouldn't help to see new teams atop, it's already quite difficult to make his way to the top like that.

Another excellent point as well that I had not thought of, +1.

No that's not what im trying say not being rude/ what Im saying is let team see the player style of play.. is the player a great offensive scorer. great defensive player. sub par rebounder, all around floor general, good driver, shot blocker? ..

That not saying give them Kareem Abdul Jabber.. it just saying give more in depth about the player of choice.. You still have to train, If the top manager knows he need better defense he can build around that. it doesn't mean he is going to stay top league because he got 3 good defenders in the draft/ But he has speed training on his side

The game has speed training .a lot of top leagues wouldn't be about who has the better wallet but who is better trainer, you would see lower salaries and better young talent after some time.. This would help the market also those top team. I'm not say raise the draft skills for them, Just more in depth in what they need, to stay float or atleast make some money.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 7/13/2013 8:36:09 PM

Only you get to see what your scouts reveal.

BUT, before you waste any scouting points, do the scouting combine first. Yes, first. Then sort out all the 19 year olds, and the heights you don't want (ex: If you want to train guard prospects, don't draft a guy 7 feet tall.). Then do the math to see if it's more efficient to scout the 1 and 2 balls individually, or to just do the group demo.

Do you just open your mouth and let your belly rumble? Regardless of anything you are trying to say , no one can take anything you say with any credibility since your posts are literred with grammatical inconsistencies. What the hell is an escape goat, also its UTMOST respect not upmost. I cringe when i read some of your posts because i know your argument is defeated before anyone can even consider it.

Glad to see it drives someone else as crazy as it does myself.

Sorry but I just don't buy it. I'm gonna go ever so slightly into economics here. But from what I gather you are saying (which is hard to do, but you gotta type a little more clearly), teams in higher divisions don't invest in the draft because it isn't worth it (i.e. the gamble, the time to train, the fact that player would be a liability etc.) and even if this were true, it is somehow wrong?

If no one in top divisions invested in the draft, then the one person who did just had their chances to get a good trainee increased significantly since they are the only ones who spent money on scouting. Let's say 20k per week, that's about ~250k per season. Not too bad if you are the only one who invests in scouting, even better if you are a high draft pick.

All top teams probably want at least one trainee, because it will help them sustain the team, and they can mould them to their needs; then add in the fact that a lot of good trainees go to waste since not a lot of people train their trainees well, and those who do generally don't want to give them up because you need good players to win so you can get to the top.

So where will the teams who need trainees get them? The player market (aka the TL). Where prices are determined by how much in demand a player is. These great trainees you talk about buying can go northward of 500k (about double the amount for 20k a week scouting). Players who are trained really well would go for over a million. So it balances out as best as possible in the end.

Now would I invest in the draft in a season where I know I'm top 3 and I have 2 trainees on my hand already? No because that's a waste of money.

Would I invest in the draft if I was bottom 3 (my personal cut off is one of the bottom 6 in the league) and was looking for trainees? Yes I would.

Whenever I've invested in the draft, I've come out with good players. In fact, one of my main trainees Lars Intek (28479379) was from my draft. If you'd like to see his skills they are right here:

http://lien.buzzer-manager.com/gr2z7s4cjn02jx6w4vq1e8vb2l...

Through good training I've gotten him as he is so far, and I'm sure he could probably sell for one million at the very least (don't quote me since I don't study the TL too much, just a rough estimate)

So was my post too long and you didn't read?
Investing in the draft is worth it if you do it smartly. (i.e. don't use points when you're top of the league). Tanking is another way to earn money, but how fun is it to lose all your games? Also if top teams can't stay afloat in the top leagues then they are obviously doing something wrong and as a result they get relegated. A new team promotes and they are given a chance to see if they are doing it right, if they are doing it better than the others then they won't get relegated or go bankrupt

Last edited by jeffjeff at 7/18/2013 10:00:09 PM