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252113.13 in reply to 252113.12
Date: 1/11/2014 8:53:25 AM
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Yes Tuck is who i have been trying to contact.

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252113.14 in reply to 252113.13
Date: 1/11/2014 9:24:06 AM
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If I can help mate, I know all the info on his player ideal stats etc so can let you know

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252113.15 in reply to 252113.14
Date: 1/11/2014 12:40:47 PM
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Absolutely Vecx , il share some of my thoughts also , im interested in making him a strong outside focus big man. For this reason my main focus is to get his OD (currently 5) up to level 9

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252113.16 in reply to 252113.15
Date: 1/11/2014 1:31:09 PM
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Ok mate I'll run some sims for you (when my kids get off my main PC) and I can come up with a whole training plan. Will you want him to be able to play princeton etc?

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252113.17 in reply to 252113.15
Date: 1/11/2014 1:51:42 PM
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9 is the minimum.

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252113.18 in reply to 252113.16
Date: 1/11/2014 3:31:29 PM
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Its not a must but it would be nice

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252113.19 in reply to 252113.15
Date: 1/13/2014 5:32:19 AM
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just a piece of advise here

if u are going to train OD on a big, first give him a full seasons of 1v1 on SF/PF position. that will make his DR/HA go up (a skill which is usefull on any player, regardless of their position). However, the biggest benefit of having a high HA/DR is that it will speed up the other guard training.

So if u do 1v1 on SF/PF, u'll get 2 (or 3) pops in JS, 5 in DR, 4 (or 5) on HA, 2 (or 3) on IS and maybe some other random pop. the free IS is always nice to have. The JS is free too, and comes in handy aswell. And the HA/DR will influence the quality of shots he takes (and the shots he creates for himself).

Now after that, u do a season of OD ==> because the HA/DR is already pretty high, it speeds up training on the OD. u'll need about 2 to 3 weeks less time in traniing OD than u'd normally need. his Od his lvl 9 (should still give u some time during that second season) and then u can train your player as u deem fit (i'm assuming u'd like to have a Power Forward). also, the OD trainign should give u 1 (or 2) pops in ID aswell.

With HA/DR&OD (and probably a slightely elevated JS) u could train PA if u'd want to ( PA on bigs is never a bad idea) or u could start the inside traniing (RB/SB untill he caught up with his IS/ID lvl and then train each one of em till they hit lvl 9)

that should give u a nice Forward for the U21 team, it also will keep your salary low (always interesting from the economical point of view) and the biggest chunk of outside traniing will have been done, meaning that you probably need to focus on inside training (and the occasional 1v1/Jumpshot training on SF/PF).

i'm speaking from experience here. i've trained up Kaiser ( a forward). given him a 1.5 season on 1v1 on SF/PF and he's matching the same speed as my guards in terms of popping on OD&JR, despite him being considerably taller and thus should be training slower (i'm also beating the time predictions on when he'll pop according to 3 excel files that i got concerning the popspeed he should have with the lvl trainer that i have).

either way, it's just a suggestion. if u like it, run it by the U21 coach before applying it. i'd hate to contradict him, he's still the man in charge of the U21 ( and the one who has the power to select players for the U21. sometimes u got to many forwards already and thus prefer a guy being trained as a C for a generation, so whatever u do, run it by him first ;)

regards

Az~

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252113.20 in reply to 252113.19
Date: 1/13/2014 9:13:40 AM
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It's the same sort of advice I give mate, although I am less convinced with the OD training speed related to the driving and handling stats, I agree that one on one is a brilliant starting point

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252113.21 in reply to 252113.20
Date: 1/13/2014 9:20:32 AM
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either it does influence, or for some reason i got a couple of players that are popping faster than they should. either way, i'm happy with the faster pops atm (ofc, if it ain't related to the excel sheets predictions, then you'd have to recalculate them. hearing that they work perfectly for others, does strengthen my belief that higher HA/DR does influence the speed of the OD training.

Last edited by AthrunZala at 1/13/2014 9:22:08 AM

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252113.22 in reply to 252113.21
Date: 1/13/2014 11:16:23 AM
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What are the minimum required inside skills for a U21 big man not to be crushed by his direct opponent? Or, in other words, how many extra outside skills do you need to have in order to compensate for lower inside skills?

If -as you're advocating- you train 1.5 years of 1v1, then 1 year of OD, you have only half a year of inside training before the trainee turns 21 and, by that time, he should be already quite far behind in that respect (he might very well catch up later, but I would think that's irrelevant in a U21 perspective).

Edit: I guess you were talking about your own trainee when you mentioned the 1.5 seasons of 1v1 and only giving advice to go as far as 1 season in that regard, however my points still stands: how well is such a player going to compete against big men with 45+ in inside skills?

Last edited by Lemonshine at 1/13/2014 11:31:22 AM

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252113.23 in reply to 252113.21
Date: 1/13/2014 11:17:18 AM
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Well I'll be able to test that for myself soon ;)

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