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I understand your rationalizing cost analysis for the purchase of seats but you are leaving out the benefits of more seats. The more seats you have the lower you can set your prices. Lower prices attract a larger percentage of the population, it becomes affordable for lower income families.

Say you have a moderate fan survey. You have 1000 bleachers priced at 10 bucks each. 900 people attend the game at that price. You make 9000 bucks. However, 1150 fans would have been willing to pay 9 bucks for those seats. You would have made 1350 dollars more with more cheaper seats. These are just small simple numbers but easy to see the concept. BB absolutely works this way. I have a fairly well built arena. I wish I had built more lower tier and fewer bleachers but it is a pretty nice arena. I pulled in 375k my last home game and 372k the game prior. I would venture to say this is near the top in the division I play.

It cost millions to get my arena to where it is and it doesn't ever pay out dollar for dollar, but what it does do is allow me to have a much higher operating budget on a week to week basis. I have one of the larger payrolls in my league but I am still making decent coin weekly not including the cup.

Lower tier seats are less affected by a recent loss or a ding to your survey than bleachers. A larger arena with lower prices make the attendance swings more moderate on a week to week basis than a small high cost arena. A larger arena just makes day to day, week to week operations more manageable and gives you a financial advantage when you are truly competing.

These are my thoughts and they are based off experience. If you don't invest more in arena, eventually you are throwing your money away. Good luck in which ever course you take.

Last edited by Yuck at 2/10/2015 3:19:26 AM

I understand your rationalizing cost analysis for the purchase of seats but you are leaving out the benefits of more seats. The more seats you have the lower you can set your prices. Lower prices attract a larger percentage of the population, it becomes affordable for lower income families.

Your arena is one of the ones I'm aiming to build mine like actually.

No, my fan survey is terrible. I drew the best team for my TV games (1 ball). 10 wins and making it to the sweet 16 in the US Tourney got me a ball and a half for last season success and if I don't beat my rival tonight that's 1 ball too. Transfers is at 2 balls. Hopefully my better (and cheaper) PR staff can help that.

All that said, at any point it gets ineffective cost-wise if you continue building seats. My plan is to build more Courtside and Lower seats with the money I have sitting around, but I can't right causethe seats I have aren't selling. Three seasons since expanding my Lower Tier and I'm still paying them off. Everyone else my not expect to get paid back dollar for for their investment, but they are trying to race to NBBA with no foundation. I will have an arena optimized for my level (hopefully DII) and a pile of money I can send on young trained players that I can find as I move along. I'd rather have 3 million in the bank then to have the "potential" to carry a higher wage build, but that's just my preference I guess.

My 15k arena currently is 9th in overall size in my league but 6th in LT+CS+LB.

Sounds like some bad luck. I understand your points. Just thought I would share my perspective if you hadn't taken a look down that path. Good luck man, its bound to get better.

Welp, decided to scale back to the salary floor and just train and demote then to lose money for 14 weeks.

Also, sold Clausi and he got injured in his first minute with his new team. I would say I made the right decision.