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Some seasons ago the scouting options for the draft was improved. Now the importance of the draft is improved. Seems to be a good idea.

50% of the players managers like you regard as trash aren't trash. They may not be the next LeBron James for 1st league teams. But you can make valuable players for 3rd and 4th league out of players with star potential, e.g. this player has 94 TSP and those aren't just JS/DR/HN: (33315212) Imagine what you can do with Allstars and even higher potential players.

3. That is a reasonable strategy. However, I've seen teams win it through other means. Another strategy is spending cash immediately on older players and hope they can carry the team to a championship. I've seen teams do both strategies and be successful.

I think they want to prevent exactly that. They want to make it unlikely that someone may have enough money from saving to buy the finished product directly without training.

4. Try to post in the suggestion forums on how to improve training. Maybe you can help.

There have been endless discussions about how to make training more appealing, including from the person who opened this thread and from several GMs. I liked very much the ideas of those who wanted to focus the efforts and changes on lower potential trainees. The threads are still there. Maybe we can all go and revisit those threads. :)

Not really. Unless you haven't followed the conversation, 54 TSP HoF 18yo are not going to free agency. Therefore I ask you and Perpete, exactly what we're talking about? Yes 10 is more than 0, but unfortunately 10 is fewer than 200 or 500. I can show you precisely how many hundreds of players who were trainable actually retired (and they would not have retired last season), can you show me how many 18-20yo have been saved from retirement so far?

I'm getting tired of people coming out with this nonsense. I was challenged to check and I did. I can do the math, can you guys? Do we want to finally put all the chips on the table and argue with numbers instead of claiming silly vague statements? The only person who has seen a 18yo free agent is hrudey.

Start counting and contact me when you reach 200.

Here is the full paragraph, two lines:
"There has been no such reduction. The FA changes does allow more 18/20 y old to become FA than before which was 0. I don't know how much, maybe not enough, but more."

So if the requirement for FA is 55+TSP for HoF exactly how many do you think are going to make it? Now compare this number to those who made it before and don't make it anymore now. I think we should do a nice little count, so we can determine who is right and who isn't. Do you agree?

The change has barely happened and already we are talking about reversing it.

We are talking about having a coherent and logical idea for the future of this game, which possibly does not involve just destroying and limiting features, but improving them instead.

Besides the general consensus seemed to be that prices were high enough, maybe too high given. Maybe we should make a poll and see if that's still the case.

It's great to reward people who trains the players, I would do it too but I've always to find someone in the market cause no one decent player has coming from the draft. Again, not talking about the skills but above all about the potential. Having max potential lvl 5 or lower is something that destroy every hopes to create a nice player. Gimme the possibile to waste my money at least in a 18 yo with MVP or similar potential then I can agree with you. At the moment I can only see the market raising (or decreasing) but I've to buy in any case players.
One really bad thing that there is when you change the economy here in BB is that your money changes a lot in the value, 3 seasons ago 4 millions were an huge amount, today not; the team strategy here is always on a long term basis, whenever you change the economy you're also change my way to play, I think you know it, just a reminder :p

How many players retired who would not have last season? Just curious, do you know the skills and potential of the 18 year old free agent?

I don't know the skills of course, but salary and DMI (after reset) I do know. In any case, last season's criteria was just based on salary, so skills had nothing to do with it. Therefore yes I can pinpoint exactly how many players fitting the requirements last season and likely still trainable (based on salary range/potential) have retired.

I ran a check of the players and teams which were active at the beginning of the season (after the draft) with NT scout.
I ran a check a month later and looked for the guys matching the S30 criteria who are now retired and had high enough potential to be still trainable.
It's funny that it's the same people that continue to argue that something>0 who asked me to provide evidence with numbers back then and prompted me to do this analysis, but have done 0 analysis on this.

Of course, I could also look into all those who have retired despite reasonably high salary (but not as high as S30 requirements) and were not capped based their "position" and age. They will be a lot more of those...