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From: mplume

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276495.14 in reply to 276495.13
Date: 2/13/2016 11:21:52 AM
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There's still the problem with teams playing against teams of different strength though. Being put against two old winners that have a very weak team in the last two rounds of the first stage would give an unfair advantage over teams that make it there while facing better opponents.
I think the way it is now with different strength of opponents is random enough. Let's at least have the same ent for all games at least.
If we don't we will just see another discussion about unfair ent in the future.


Good point.

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Date: 2/13/2016 11:30:44 AM
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You have luck of the draw in every competition in this game. You can't make it perfectly even for everybody, just evening the odds, if you get what I'm saying. If you go with fixed Enth you still have easier and harder schedules.

I think I got a very unfavourable schedule this season in the league where the combination of games was very tricky. It happens. And let's not begin to talk about the cup, where you have D1 teams playing 4 other D1 teams before the ASG.

The fact is everyone has the same chance AND I proposed that Enth does not revert to 5, but has a floor or have a long term average of 7-8 so the differences cannot be too large. Note that this, in general, favours the best teams as they can afford to TIE/PON more than others.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 2/13/2016 11:31:32 AM

From: Han Lopez

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Date: 2/13/2016 3:41:12 PM
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How about moving the final of B3 to before the playoffs? It looks like the timing is the problem, too. I guess if the final of the B3 would be before playoffs most teams would have higher or similar enthusiasm

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Date: 2/13/2016 4:00:51 PM
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Then it will depends a lot from the length of the cup,small nations will have lower ent because of the cup ending too soon...

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Date: 2/13/2016 4:29:43 PM
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You have luck of the draw in every competition in this game. You can't make it perfectly even for everybody, just evening the odds, if you get what I'm saying. If you go with fixed Enth you still have easier and harder schedules.


Sure you can. If we're looking at the best of the best, give them all "B3" teams with 12 lucky fans, fixed enthusiasm, no injuries and fixed GS, and it's as equal as can be. And it would suck. ;)

I think separate enthusiasm is best; enthusiasm management is one of the tools of the trade and so managing that wisely in B3 is useful, but having that be adversely affected by the discrepancy between different nations' competition levels is counterproductive. Otherwise a fixed 5 (or 7, 10, whatever) for all matches is a decent fallback.

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276495.20 in reply to 276495.1
Date: 2/15/2016 9:14:41 AM
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I am agree.

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Date: 2/16/2016 6:54:07 AM
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Would be fair for all teams if all have the same ent, thx for your answer mate.

Hope they will make those changes soon.

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