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278539.13 in reply to 278539.12
Date: 5/3/2016 6:15:32 AM
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The same can be done if you would go to his teams page, press team stats and you will see his 3fg% :) It is 40,4 by the way :)

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Date: 5/3/2016 6:54:14 AM
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Yeah that's even easier. And 40,4% seems like a totally unbroken mark for outside shooting.

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Date: 5/3/2016 7:12:28 AM
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I'm not attacking or trolling you, I'm just saying you should provide significant data when making claims.The fact that after a week I lost sight of the specific game you were talking about when I was describing a way how you can get helpful data doesn't make the actual point I'm making invalid. Also the fact that I put in effort to help you acquire the necessary data should tell you I genuinely want to help make things clear.

So, I look forward to your data :)

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Date: 5/3/2016 8:01:56 AM
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I will refrain from posting beyond this because you keep saying I attack you while I clearly stated that I'm not.

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Date: 5/3/2016 9:02:16 AM
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As you have stated before, a related (root) problem is that teams still only play and train inside players and high OD. You also see this on the transfer list; currently there are just 6 players with 75+ TSP and 16 JR, but there are 162 players with 75+ TSP and 16 OD. I'm not surprised that in B3, there are bad 3P% games because I suspect they don't have high JR but face extremely high OD.

As long as there are no good outside shooters, no good outside shooting will happen. That needs to be fixed before we can conclude that outside shooting itself is not working correctly. BB already changed the salary impact of JR to stimulate the use/training of it, but our managers are slow to adapt (which is understandable because training takes very long). Besides that, most managers are conservative and wait with changing until they see proof it works (there are just a few early adaptors like Nachtmar and Manon). I know these are known facts but until they are solved we keep facing the problem. But how can we solve this if there are so few people willing to train JR?

One way is to do nothing and wait longer, and hope it changes gradually. This seems slow and with unsure results.

Another way is to further decrease JR salary, artificially improve it's performance in the GE or decrease the effectiveness/increase salary of OD. Could work, but with the risk that if effectiveness is improved and people also start training it more, it could get too strong.

An outside the box option would be to artificially create Free Agents with good JR, that way managers are not dependant on people training JR but can buy and expirement right away. This could be a faster and safer option than the two above, and might even help reducing the prices on the player market.

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Date: 5/3/2016 10:11:31 AM
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Another way is to further decrease JR salary, artificially improve it's performance in the GE or decrease the effectiveness/increase salary of OD. Could work, but with the risk that if effectiveness is improved and people also start training it more, it could get too strong.


The fundamental problem is not the JR salary. I would wager that if the salary component of JR were reduced to zero, in six seasons the only players we'd see with 18+ JR are the ones who exist today, players that got put on JR training on a semi-active team and just left there, and a few crazy people (myself included). If you're going to train a guard, for example, would you rather train three guys in JR or five-six guys in 1v1, especially since each week of 1v1 gives more TSP than the JR training in the first place, and since the handling is so important to the elastics on the other guard skills?

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