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301526.13 in reply to 301526.11
Date: 10/29/2019 6:02:03 AM
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Just checked. Only one player, Altenbung, fauled out once. Hence yes, I consistently trained 6 players for 2 seasons.
The form was horrible. Nonetheless, you don't need form when all the teams in your division are computer managed.

I think I have been quite clear. I would like to train a center, a power forward and a small forward, so 3 players.
Three position training makes no sense, you lose to much.
What would you recommend as a skills needed for creating three monsters at these positions. Again, I am talking about 1 position training.
Thanks

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301526.14 in reply to 301526.13
Date: 10/29/2019 6:57:28 AM
Tampines Fusion
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For you, 3 players are doable I guess. PF and C don't have much difference

If you still insist on training them all up at the same time, I reckon theoretically you need:
1 tall kid
1 shorter kid
1 kid somewhere around 6'6" maybe?

Spam One on one forwards until 12 for all of them

Then ID, RB, IS until wherever you want it to end. The tall guy should in theory pop faster.

Round it off with OD and JS for the PF and SF.

I think the common practice is outside first before insides? Not sure tho. But if you really want all three to grad at the same time, the this might be your best bet.

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301526.15 in reply to 301526.14
Date: 10/29/2019 7:31:27 AM
Laguna Buko Mixers
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Assuming the 3 trainees are all above 6'6", yes, that's the common practice, outsides as early as possible because training guard skills slower for taller and older trainees.

If you want to train OD, you can just play all your trainees as PG, 48 minutes each. Here's the thing though. Since their ODs are low, they might foul out. I suggest you this...

Potential C - 48 minutes at PG on your hardest game for the week
Potential PF - 48 minutes on whatever game is left
Potential SF - 48 minutes at PG on your easiest game for the week

Reason for this is your SF and PF will need the OD more than your C...

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301526.16 in reply to 301526.15
Date: 10/29/2019 9:01:17 AM
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That's a pretty good idea. Might as well train the C anyway.

But you can also make use of defensive assignments right? Place the C back at C to defend.

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301526.17 in reply to 301526.16
Date: 10/29/2019 9:42:53 AM
Laguna Buko Mixers
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I think off-position defensive assignments doesn't affect defense training. Correct me if I'm wrong though as I've never done it.

What I would do is to play the trainee bigs as PG both on offense and defense. Then, employ an outside-oriented defense like 3-2 zone or 1-3-1 zone to counteract the low OD team rating and possibly reduce the fouls on your trainees.

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301526.18 in reply to 301526.17
Date: 10/29/2019 1:25:30 PM
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Afaik off-position defensive assignments do not affect training. Hence it's totally safe to play your C at PG, then set it to C in defense.

3-2 won't work, as BB is not about ratings. Your opponent will still hit 100% of their 3s if they got good JS/JR and were shooting over your C who is playing at PG. Hence it's much safer to reassign him back to C in defense.

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301526.19 in reply to 301526.17
Date: 11/1/2019 5:37:26 AM
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I would much rather switch my bigs playing at the PG to the C position on defense in a 3-2 zone as experience would tell me he is much less likely to defend guards because of his court position on defense. He's most likely to end up guarding forwards and centers from there and get rebounds at the same time.

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301526.20 in reply to 301526.1
Date: 11/1/2019 8:36:02 AM
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In short term you can train two positions but it is usually much better to stick with three trainees and aim for one position training because after (at most) 2 seasons of one-on-one you will have to sell half of the trainees and if you try players with such training I would not expect you to get much paid so then you have kind of trained them with little gain. This assuming that you focus on 18 years old. If you buy players that been trained in one position then it might be different.

At least have I the last kind of 40 seasons always put priority on one position and still it is hard to get them fully trained in the end. To buy more than three players with a good potential and good starting values will make it very hard to go for more than three players also. If you trained for optimum income I still think that it is better to buy high potential and good starting skills as my experience is that if you train an all star potential player some seasons it will still not give you close to the same amount as someone with same skills and a superstar or better potential as they will not be starters even in the second division when they are capped.

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301526.21 in reply to 301526.20
Date: 11/6/2019 6:57:21 AM
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Thank you all for the advice.
So, to recap.
I will take 3 trainees 18yo, potential MVP, all above 6'6".
I will train the outside skills first (should I start with 1on1 or OD)?
Finally, about tha trainer, should I switch to a level 5?
Thanks

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301526.22 in reply to 301526.21
Date: 11/6/2019 9:19:24 AM
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Done this through - was in very similar situation.

I started this game 2.5 seasons ago.
My goal of this game have been to have 2 home grown players who can help me out to atleast D2. Don't expect fast results, it takes time.
My target is to have homegrown PF (Player 1) & SF (Player 2). My philosophy have been to train players out of position as they are young and not so good - therefore you don't have to play them outside of position when they can already add some good value for your games.

In my example, I have focused on my both players (6.8 and 7.0) outside skills first 3 seasons - then I don't have to play them at PG when they have 40+sum of big man position skills.

Season 1 (for me):
Division 4, league was mostly botted.
Trainees. Was given bunch of players, one of them was 18 year old 7.0 perennial all-star. 50 something sum of skills.
Trainers: Hired trainer level 5, no youth trainer / gym
Training: 1/2 season of 1v1 Forwards
Invested most of my funds to arena and bought couple of 10k salary older guys to get easy promotion.
Won division

Season 2:
Divison 3
Trainees: Player 1 + drafted Player 2 (kos 50... something)
Trainers: Trainer level 5 + hired youth trainer
Training: 3/4 season of 1v1 forwards and 1/4 season of JR SG (Player 1 and Player 2 only).
Invested most of my funds to arena + some for older temporary guys with 10k-15k salary to try to stay in D3, unfortunately lost drop out games but was lucky enough that I did not drop out of D3.
Stayed in D3

Season 3:
Division 3
Drafted some good players, sold them because already had 2 trainees (approximately 1m). Invested most to arena and some better players - to not risk again dropping out of D3.
Trainees: Player 1+ Player 2
Training: 2/4 season of 1v1 forwards + 2/4 season Pressure at PG
Will not drop out of D3 this time.

Next I will focus on OD, until it is 10-11 for player 2 and then JS until it is 11 for Player 1. Will train both players same time. Then I will jump to inside skills and stay there until Player 1 is ready - will see what direction I will continue my journey on Player 2 - his potential will hit a lot later.

Player 1:http://lien.buzzer-manager.com/entkyqg7vyyj7fepcyjwhkso2k...
Player 2: http://lien.buzzer-manager.com/6ocelqda477dpmj67e56un5mez...

Couple of things which I suggest:
Trainees: Min pot Superstar, 18 YO.
Max number of trainees: TWO. You can try to have 4-5 in the first couple of seasons (only for making of profit buying-selling) when you train 1v1 forwards - but in the end you will have to sell all the rest and keep only 2.
Trainers: Level 5 + Level 4 youth trainer
First two seasons - only 1v1 Forwards (until 12-13 or even more), then all other upper skills until at desired levels. Of course you will become bored in the meantime, then train JR or JS temporarily.
3rd season - focus on other outside skills.
4th season - focus on other outside skills + inside skills

Contact again when Season 4 is coming for you.



Last edited by Kennneth at 11/6/2019 9:25:02 AM

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301526.23 in reply to 301526.21
Date: 11/7/2019 12:40:13 AM
Tampines Fusion
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If you're going for outside, always start with 1on1 forwards. Jack em to 12 then go for OD.

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