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69685.13 in reply to 69685.12
Date: 1/24/2009 12:46:38 AM
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Ha ha ha. Good point!

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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69685.14 in reply to 69685.13
Date: 1/24/2009 1:02:34 AM
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As for your comment on rampant daytrading i'd prefer if this was referred to as skilltrading

I was forced to follow another skill trader in Japan otherwise I would have been destined to be the bridesmaid forever and never the bride!

I also don't think I'm that bad at managing minutes! ;-)

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Date: 1/24/2009 3:53:18 AM
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My bad. I'll change it.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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Date: 1/24/2009 4:12:51 PM
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Feel free to BB mail me but again it would be nice to seek another opinion (other than one that supports training 24yo in 3 position or team training!)

I will concur with Superfly for an overall training plan. Also feel free to BB mail me if you have any questions from a Canadian slant.

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69685.17 in reply to 69685.1
Date: 1/24/2009 8:57:30 PM
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there are many ways to be successful in this game, i think you even could use teamtraining (if you able to get 15 young trainees with a lack in a specific skill which you could improve with teamtraining)
back to topic defense isnt all, you have to train both i guess plus the secondary skills
some believe real allrounders are the best, but i think its better to train only skills for the positions in combination with the height.

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Date: 1/25/2009 12:51:12 AM
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Feel free to BB mail me but again it would be nice to seek another opinion (other than one that supports training 24yo in 3 position or team training!)

I will concur with Superfly for an overall training plan. Also feel free to BB mail me if you have any questions from a Canadian slant.


Well thank you sir.. can't ask for a more glowing endorsement.... ive just taken on a mentor so I would act quick if jbm is offering his words of wisdom......

Edit..i meant to say I am now mentoring someone...... although I would also welcome a mentor to improve!!

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Date: 1/25/2009 11:04:30 AM
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The last "mentee" that actually listened and followed my advice is the NY Wahoos - playing this week in the USA cup semifinals. So, go Wahoos! To his credit, I gave him rather vague recommendations, but he managed to apply them to his own situation. Surprising how many teams ignore good advice ...

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Date: 1/25/2009 11:47:29 AM
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Jump Shot: proficient Jump Range: average
Outside Def.: average Handling: respectable
Driving: strong Passing: awful
Inside Shot: awful Inside Def.: atrocious
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: mediocre
Stamina: respectable Free Throw: pitiful

if you could give this guy 4 pops before the end of the season how would you use them??!!

Which stats wouldnt you even try to increase?

sorry dont know height but assume he is guard size

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Date: 1/25/2009 11:53:00 AM
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I would definately go for Outside Defence. Perhaps to proficient. So that's 3, the other to Passing. Inept just seems so much better than awful.

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Date: 1/25/2009 11:55:59 AM
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I'm not sure he could get 3 pops in OD till the end of the season (at the current rate of OD training).

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Date: 1/25/2009 12:20:20 PM
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there are many ways to be successful in this game, i think you even could use teamtraining (if you able to get 15 young trainees with a lack in a specific skill which you could improve with teamtraining)


yep, still support this idea.
The reason why I started doing it is because BBs don't want a second 1-sides hattrick, and therefor love balanced players. You see this in the wages, so why wouldn't they have implement it in the training as well... (which they already did on the more visible parameters that players with a low other primary skill don't train that fast as when they have their primaries nicely balanced).

My problem at this point is that my players are getting to old. And that's why I am probably loosing ground. I'm still positive that by training your whole team, given they are all between 18 and 21, can compete with 1sided trainers.

Anyone ever wondered why I never had an MVP, nor any NT players, while the other teams around me did have them, and still I manage to play the cup finals (and only lost because I had to play on the road) !?!
Anyone wondered how I manage to hang in a conference where my best payed player has a lower wage then the other team's lowest payed starter?

I have...
And I have only 1 answer: my team is balanced. Other teams, with high salarymen, often are 1 sided. This makes them predictable, and easy to set the propper tactic against them.
My team can play ANY tactic out there, attacking or defending, anything is possible, and my team performs them equally well if I line them up right. That is the strentgh of a manager that trains his entire team.

Yes, my centers will train slower, and the other team training centers will soon get the upperhand inside. So what? I play 2-3 zome and attack outside and win.
Yes those guards from the outside training manager quickly get better then my men, so what? I play pressing, or 3-2 zone, attack inside, and win...

I DO agree you need young people though, and THAT is where I am going wrong.
And to buy 12 young people you need an immense amount of cash, while if you only train centers you only need 2 youngsters.
So there is the trade-off. If you do not have an immensely huge amount of money, and can't buy an entire young team, you loose training that way.
But since I had very bad drafts for 3 seasons in a row now, I don't have any young players, and all my players are about equal in age. My youngest don't play in 1 spot (actually my players seldom play 1 spot, to fly all over the place depending on what tactic I set), so that is why I keep developping the entire team.

So to conclude: never say that training an entire team is a bad way. I even think it is the best way!! But it is very costly, since the players you create will not get you that much money on the TL, BUT they are so much more worth in the field...
And since almost nobody wants to train entire teams, most players on the TL are 1 sided. Trained up to met some criteria for his position, neglecting most or all his other skills, because that is fastest, and brings most money in the long run, so you realy can't buy the all-round player you can get by training your team in a balanced way, so there you have it. More moeny, but not the best available players to buy, or less money, but more options and therefor the better team...

Enough on this.

As for the question: my team has had fewest points against in our league (yes I like defense), and we also score very little, still I managed to do good in the past seasons. I seldom see teams that alow few points at the bottom anywhere, so I think it is certainly worth it.
I think pure offensive training, or pure defensive training isn't good. 50/50 might well be the best way. But if I had to choose, and take 40% of 1 and 60% of the other, I'd take 60 defense. Just my feel.

As a last note> I might be a GM, but that has nothing to do with my BB-skills. GMs are selected on the person they are, not on

They are not your friends; they dispise you. I am the only one you can count on. Trust me.
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