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96940.13 in reply to 96940.11
Date: 6/14/2009 3:09:43 PM
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My position on the situation is that top teams shouldn't be allowed to become exponentially better by brute force (which means by gaining heaps of new income), so that the runners-up have a chance to catch up with them. It's a critical playability component.


But that is not only a revenue question. It also takes alot of work and skill to become champ and a top team. There must be some sort of reward for it. You can fight your way up also by making sound trade investmensts and managing your staff and player saleries well. Buy cheap and sell expencive.

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96940.14 in reply to 96940.13
Date: 6/14/2009 3:24:39 PM
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If your competitors do get the impression they can by no means catch up with you, what do you think they gonna do? What would you do if there is no way to win? You might think stop playing, right? So in case you prefer to have some leaguemates...this might be your reward!

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96940.15 in reply to 96940.14
Date: 6/14/2009 3:50:24 PM
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Well I started from the lowest lvl at the time and fought my way up. Others can do the same. I have been a montor to several players in Denmark and most of them are in the DBL og div. 1 now. Thats my way of making a balance for other teams.

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96940.16 in reply to 96940.1
Date: 6/14/2009 3:58:54 PM
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are you actually asking for more money?
what the other 50000 teams should do then?

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96940.17 in reply to 96940.16
Date: 6/14/2009 4:16:20 PM
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You are far and away the best team in your country. What I don't understand is why you're whining about $4,000 when you said $1M wasn't much these days. If 1M isn't worth much, then why is 4K?

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96940.18 in reply to 96940.17
Date: 6/14/2009 4:38:54 PM
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I'm not whining over 4K, you did not get it at all! I was telling about the difference. Another guy in the post said I was getting alot more in the gate, but as a matter of fact, I got 4k less than the guy that did not win anything. Get it straight!

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96940.19 in reply to 96940.18
Date: 6/14/2009 5:04:12 PM
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I'm not whining over 4K, you did not get it at all! I was telling about the difference. Another guy in the post said I was getting alot more in the gate, but as a matter of fact, I got 4k less than the guy that did not win anything. Get it straight!

In one game, maybe. In the end of the season, the overall sum can be close to a million, and definitely over $500,000.

You think this is not enough, and you're entitled to your opinion -- though I am afraid a reform which will allow you to swim in rivers of gold is not likely :-/

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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96940.20 in reply to 96940.19
Date: 6/14/2009 6:38:42 PM
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I'm not whining over 4K, you did not get it at all! I was telling about the difference. Another guy in the post said I was getting alot more in the gate, but as a matter of fact, I got 4k less than the guy that did not win anything. Get it straight!

In one game, maybe. In the end of the season, the overall sum can be close to a million, and definitely over $500,000.

You think this is not enough, and you're entitled to your opinion -- though I am afraid a reform which will allow you to swim in rivers of gold is not likely :-/


Well, at least we can agree that it is ok to disagree. If we look at the point, I don't think it is realistic with then fan/attendance balance when taking winning into concideration. This is what BB want's in the end:
Thank you for your patience as we worked out the bugs and continue to improve the biggest and most realistic massively multiplayer basketball simulation on the net
In real competition, it would be different, thus this part is not real.

However, I really enjoy this game and respect others oppinion on the subject. And I do agree that there should be a balance to make it competetive. But please remember that I did not start off with more money than other teams. I'm running a successfull team and that takes alot. Not only winning every season gives me that edge, good teams must have a chance to improve as well as the lesser teams.

Last edited by Mod-worthy42 at 6/14/2009 6:40:41 PM

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96940.21 in reply to 96940.20
Date: 6/14/2009 7:06:30 PM
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We can always agree to disagree. I am stating my opinion and have a reasoning about it.

"Biggest and most realistic" doesn't mean it can copy the NBA or the Euroleague in every single aspect. Playability is sometimes more important than realism, and in this particular case playability (and I have in mind playability for team other than those who win their leagues/cups by a landslide) is critical.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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96940.22 in reply to 96940.21
Date: 6/14/2009 9:32:56 PM
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Lets take a step back here.

1mil now equates to 5-6 weeks (possibly 7) salary of one of the highest skilled big men in the game.

Now I would consider that Mod-worthy has earnt the right to take his team to the next level by adding one of these players to his team thus improving (hopefully!) his performance.

OH - he has bought such a player. Now if the rest of the chasing pack in the DBBL want to catch up and follow suit then they must already be making $125k more a week from the salary saving so its now just a case of when they step in and also buy such a player to compete on court with him.

You cant say 'boo hoo the gap will grow' when the chasing pack wont open their wallets and keep up the spending to improve their roster. If one team is taking it to the max. then I'd understand a complaint if you were then unable to bridge the gap.

I assume most Div.1 teams from a previous thread are operating with $125-150k profit a week (excl. cup money). This being the case do you want the game so that these teams can catch up their countries best without having to push the limits?

Lets at least have a challenge. Or you want them to be able to win and make $2mil a season as well???

Winning should allow the buffer of making a bit of profit each season. That should unlock further wealth as I would hope that teams 'winning' are doing all that they can.

We aren't there yet. Teams are still making healthy weekly profits. So, either sit back make that and dont complain you cant catch up OR spend it wisely and go challenge at the very top.

Having a formula that turns away STH's is ridiculous to winning teams. The emphasis needs to swing back to 'WINNING' and managers should be encouraged to go out and push the financial limits of their club for success.

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96940.23 in reply to 96940.20
Date: 6/14/2009 9:33:37 PM
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Newcastle United got relegated from the Premiership but they had the 4th highest attendance in the league.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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