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271948.131 in reply to 271948.125
Date: 8/7/2015 4:36:00 PM
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The only knock against Phyr is that we lost the Finals basically because France's GDP tactics were better than ours. As manager Phyr takes the blame for that, rightly or wrongly. If you're one of the people who questions Phyr's competency because of that one incident, you should respect mine all the more.

- Ken Simons 8/6/2015

Godbear blatantly misrepresenting Phyr, misrepresenting the US, and misrepresenting himself. I'm still not sure if his campaign is a joke but it's really not funny. He portrays Phyr as having lost a game we should have won. The claim that we should have won is more debatable than he seems to think; I don't think Godbear has any evidence to support his claim that we should have won other than this belief that since we're the US, we must have been better than France.

- Ken Simons 8/7/2015
He also blatantly misrepresents the argument for Phyr as "because E.B.W. and Phyr say so" while ignoring Phyr's qualifications and everything he's done right to help the NT. And he talks about the USA as "my community" and such grandiose rhetoric, when the reality is, if the USA National Team is "his community", he hasn't shown any sign of it--has never said a word or lifted a finger to help at any point in the past.

Make no mistake that phyr was a big contributor in a lot of the GOLD seasons we have enjoyed recently. It is also undeniable that we are 0-2 with him driving the bus.
As far as my NT contributions, I'm not sure the need has ever been this dire. We can not let the current trend continue.



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271948.133 in reply to 271948.131
Date: 8/7/2015 4:44:48 PM
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This thread is for debating. Anybody may post here as many times as they would like, but keep away from personal attacks.

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I want to fight the French not the U21 Civil War!

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Date: 8/7/2015 4:52:16 PM
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How do you plan to win? Without talking about last season, or anything that Phyr has done, how will you win? You still haven't explained that.

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271948.135 in reply to 271948.46
Date: 8/7/2015 5:00:49 PM
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I want one of these posts for me. I have a pretty large God-complex and my ego demands things said about me.

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Date: 8/7/2015 5:05:30 PM
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Oriolekid you that boy

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271948.139 in reply to 271948.107
Date: 8/7/2015 6:29:16 PM
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Short answer is we need more owners like you. Touza was an absolute beast.

Where do we go from here? S32 and S33 pipeline are looking good. We have a couple guys that are almost a season ahead of where our inside bigs like myers and edmondson were at the beginning of the seasons last year. Fewmit only train those guys for two season. We need guys to train bigs for four. We need to make sure that the bigs in our S34 and S35 pipelines look the same as the S32 and S33.

What caused the S30 and S31 pipeline to be so poor? A couple of seasons ago we began to lose the alot core administrators who had been running things on the offsite. Guys like mfork, Sleet, wozz, jfarb all did alot of the behind the scenes work. I was just a young noob in DV during this time. We had great tools like Advanced Stats to analyze games. We had an attendance helper which IMHO was superior to the one on B-M. Matching Ratings predictor. Tactics Helper. Training Planner to help monitor sublevels. The Training Data project gave us all the info that we know about the elastic effect and allowed rhyminsimon to create the training simulator. For U21 and the NT, instead of a google doc like im using now we had a database website that would easily update a players skills when a manager logged on to the offsite or used one of the tools. There was also a scouting tool that could be run to generate the list of potential U21/NT prospects.

As these admins quit the game (especially mfork and wozz), the tools stopped working and our scouting infrastructure was basically not functional. No one really stepped up to fill this void and there was a whole season during their 18/19 year old season when the S30 and S31 pipeline guys received zero scouting which was turned out to be disastrous. During this time, I was more active in participating in the gameplanning threads for the NT game. When I became U21 coach, I decide to take total responsibility for the scouting and IMHO we have seen tremendous improvement in the quality of our pipelines.

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Date: 8/7/2015 6:34:19 PM
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This thread got me through my work day. I just want to say thank you to everyone involved.

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