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I would really like to see the Fashion Victims win, we could do with some incredibly good looking people here in the ABBL when currently I have to look at people like Bryce Gibbs and Fish.

and direwolf and ezlife and C-cat and Sid and urmumma and.... well u get the idea.

So here is an interesting salary differential

two players with the following stats

Player 1 -

JS - 14, JR - 11
OD - 16 HD - 15
DR - 14 PS - 15
IS - 3 ID - 3
RB - 4 SB - 3

Player 2 -
JS - 14, JR - 11
OD - 16 HD - 15
DR - 14 PS - 15
IS - 4 ID - 10
RB - 3 SB - 5

As you can see, both are PG's and both have the EXACT same guard stats. the differentials are
Player 2 has +7 on his ID, +1 on IS, +2 on SB, but -1 on RB.

Now here is the kicker
Player 1 salary - $ 89 073
Player 2 Salary - $ 75 956

Now if someone can tell me how player 2 has $14k LESS in salary, id like to know. Basically, it means rebounding on a PG, from awful to inept, is worth $14k salary.

and don't anyone give me any of that sub-level bulldust. cause $14k does not cut it.

14k does cut it if you assume ~.9 or whatever on the expensive guard stats. Run it through a calc.

14k does cut it if you assume ~.9 or whatever on the expensive guard stats. Run it through a calc.

An interesting game tonight, Coach. I'd like to know the skill set of your SG, Ruiz. The matchup between he and my SG Gilewski was interesting. My boy was held scoreless for the first half! Sure, he piled on 23 in the second half but he shot poorly...again! Which is why I put him on the transfer market after the game. Look at his skill set and tell me why he can't shoot against anyone! Sure he's got crappy secondaries and sure I've played LI more often than not which doesn't play to his strengths...but I've played RnG twice in two weeks and he has shot poorly. As the big fish woyuld say..."Flush that stinky turd!" And flush I will...


Krzysztof Gilewski (17008874)

Shooting Guard

Weekly salary: $ 89 131
Role: regular starter
(BuzzerBeta)

DMI: 1155400
Age: 29
Height: 6'3" / 190 cm
Potential: hall of famer
Game Shape: proficient

Jump Shot: legendary
Jump Range: prolific
Outside Def.: phenomenal
Handling: stupendous
Driving: phenomenal
Passing: prominent
Inside Shot: pitiful
Inside Def.: average
Rebounding: awful
Shot Blocking: pitiful
Stamina: awful ↑
Free Throw: inept
Experience: strong

Actually, now that I think of it...Demagi was defending him wasn't he? My boy was defending Ruiz though and didn't do enough of a job on that. Phenomenal OD my ass!

your fired.
ok so i did run this through Buzzer-manager calc - which because of the new salary calc's is a bit off, but thats ok.

So player 1's stats give a salary estimate of $86,591
The estimate for player 2 is - $84,172
So essentially, those non-guard stat differences account for approximately $2.5k

I assume that BM's 'stat' sub-levels are 0, (ie: Strong = 8.0) (does anyone know this?) but, looking at the above data, a $9k difference between Buzzer-manager salary and actual on P2, that seems REALLY big, so maybe BM's salary estimator is at 0.5 sub-levels?
If i bump every 'guard' stat one level up for P1, the salary estimate is $120,171 -
If i bump every 'guard' stat down one level for P2, the salary estiamte is $54,439

So between one level down and the 'P2 baseline', there is a $30k difference. Between P1 baseline and one level 'up' there is a $34k difference.

If i assume the salary estimator is at 0.5 sub-level, then to go from 0.5 to the next level up in ($120,171 - $86,591)/6/10 = $559 increase in salary per sub-level (assumes this is linear as well, which its not but whatever) either way its 10 sub-levels.
and with P2, thats ($84,172 - $54,439)/6/10 = $495 per sub-level

So if i assume that BM's salary estimator is at 0.5 sublevels AND P2's stats are at like, 0.0 sub-levels, this would account for 6*495*5 = $14,866 salary
(so alright MR smarty pants Lordy, even HALF of the sub-levels cater for a $14k salary difference..... :)

working the other way, 6*559*4 (which would 0.9 sublevel) = $13,416

So a guy with those exact same stats could have a salary difference of $28,282 - roughly... ive made heaps of assumptions about the lineararity of the data, but thats an interesting compariosn.

Intersting? no... stupid poo brain dumboness? yes

im not even going to try and begin to understand how Gilewski has such a low salary. thats just bomb-ness - not really sure what u are trying to get out of him, but a SG who shoots 44% is actually pretty good.

Vaiz is shooting 39% this season as a point of interest. Vaiz only has Tremendous OD.

the whole game was odd, Groppo was 4 from 6 at one stage, then proceeded to miss his next 8 shots. Demaqi was 2-15 yet still kept fkn shooting the ball! like seriously wtf?!?!



i think the fact tha ti played low post may have contributed to more 'open' shots for viaz, whereas RnG tends to be more low-% shots, so yer i think that contributed more.

Viaz guarded Gilewski, but I also totally stuffed my lineup tonight and Demaqi at reserve and backup for SF and SG. so Demaqi may have spent some time guarding Gilewski. BUt i was watching the game thinking 'why is nobody gtting subbed?'.. haha.. silly me. yer that was a bit of a fk up. i should have probably won that game. No i definately should have won that game.

back to the drawing board for me.

Yeah, agree, you should have won that game. As for Gilewski shooting at 44%...

...and your boy, Raiz has 13OD v my boy's 20JS and 18OD and still lost the battle (kind of)...

...not good enough! lol

I guess I compare every guard I get to the ones I trained and Hot Rod (Marcelo Rodriguez) whose salary is less than $70k would have taken Ruiz to town from outside on a Run and Gun tactic and defended him better than Gilewski. Mind you, I made Hot Rod into the perfect outside shooter. I guess I'm just not satisfied with Gilewski's performances when asked to shoot from outside. I get the results given the LI games but I'm just not happy with him. My PG is a much better player...better skill distribution...has secondaries...with only a slightly higher salary...

...and he's Aussie so I'll keep him while I go in to semi-tank mode...

I just realised why we are rivals, we spent half a season in the same league together back in s22. Our previous meeting went like this (52860213).

Last edited by freebird at 10/12/2013 11:45:18 AM