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THis is an old quote but since no changes has been made to regular matches yet it still holds. And i think it will even after the change just that it occurs more often.
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To answer a few related questions about shot blocking:

Shot blocking currently does four major things in the game.

1) It helps a defender block some shots, which reduces their chances of going in to zero.

2) It helps a defender alter some shots, which reduces their chances of going in substantially but not to zero.

3) It contributes to the team inside defense rating, which is used as part of the calculation during every defensive possession not resulting in a back-court steal.

4) It allows quicker improvement in related skills during training.

As I've said on a few occasions, I'm going to try to keep out of the debate as far as whether these four major things are sufficiently strong - I've found that BB posts tend to stifle debate much of the time, and that doesn't seem like a very good idea here.

So it seems not all shots are touched by SB. I dont have time to look up the other quote.

Simply perfect, thank you very very much.
Almost every shot touched by SB can be seen in the live report. But sometimes occurs a SB and it's not mentioned the atteempt in the Live Report (Player A shot and B try to block) and others neither the SB itself ( The Shot is Blocked) but you can see it in the Box Score.
Sorry for my english but it's 3 am... i hope you all get the idea.

If we take everything into account, I would say SB works like that:

Shot defended?
1) no -> free shot
2) yes -> man-to-man defense or help defense

if 2) yes:
2.1) score (SB had a low %. it still influenced the shot, but it wasn't enough to prevent from scoring)
2.1.1) no foul
2.1.2) shooting foul -> and-1

2.2) miss (SB had a high enough %)
2.2.1) Block (high % or value)
2.2.2) alters the shot (this action I only saw as Help Defense in the play-by-play)
2.2.3) shot defended without altering the shot. high pressure or wth like that
2.2.4) shooting foul (low %)


that's my opinion on how SB works. and I believe to remember that there was another post from Marin or Patrick, were they explained it with the influence of X and Y %. but maybe I'm mixing it with sth other ;)

and than, there is one question: what's the difference between SB and ID?

Last edited by Nachtmahr at 5/23/2013 3:49:28 AM

3) It contributes to the team inside defense rating, which is used as part of the calculation during every defensive possession not resulting in a back-court steal.

Feel free to correct me, but seems like the above would be one reason for the perceived weakness of SB. Everyone evaluates skills "usefullness" on the results they can see but SB is one that may have been plenty effective but not on a visible level. In real world terms, SB in the GE could have acted as a deterant to players taking inside shots/drives for fear of the opponents blocking prowess and the ball handler may have instead passed out and resulted in the possession ending with a jumpshot. This would inherently lower the chance of a successful possession but wouldn't really be visible to us so everyone immediately claims SB isnt strong enough.

Just a theory but I dont have thousands of possessions worth of data analyzed to prove it or anything.

Just a wild guess:

ID - prevent the player from shooting by staying in front of him, closing passing routes, boxing out etc.

SB - if ID failed and a shot is going of, prevent the player from scoring

I don't trust the live viewer very much when it comes to shot selection and shot quality.

I always wonder how those "wide open shots under high pressure" might look like, also FG% seems to be unrelated to specific events and lines...

I'm curious to hear why no one tried to create a 20 ID - 20 SB center?

I know at least one such a person ;)