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You GMs have done a great job in this thread of causing me to worry, and many others judging by the posts. In fact you make us worry to the extent that we are obligated to report transfers outside TPE. If we don't report a sale outside TPE you assume we are cheating, even though TPE is flawed to the extent that I was advised as a new player by someone in the EBBL not to rely on it when buying players.

Every time I make a nice sale in which I didn't cheat, I have to report and worry about you screwing me out of money I think I am entitled to.

That's really good isn't it. On the one hand we have to worry and in the post above you tell us not to worry. We are supposed to report transfers outside TPE yet TPE is flawed.

You have caused me to worry so much that I was forced to report a transfer WITHIN the bounds of TPE because you yourselves say that sometimes the upper bounds of TPE is influenced by cheaters. I think I will have to report every transfer I make because otherwise you will ban me someday.

Someone else said your policy is insane. I agree.


Last edited by CorruptCop at 3/4/2010 3:02:50 PM

Your making it seem like the TPE is the only thing we look at when investigating teams. It's not.

the gm say that you should report transfers who are way to high, and often said that this must not compare with the tpe ...

A self report is also nothing you had to worry about, if it right you don't get a fine if it way out of range the probability is good that is reported anyway(and then the gm don't say cheater but they are maybe not that nice like when you reported it yourself - if they aren't signs for cheating)

I would hope that you have more than one overpriced transfer as evidence before accusing any user of cheating. But I am made to feel that if some newbs get into a bidwar on my player and it sells for a nice price, that I should report it otherwise I am going to be made to suffer for actions I had no influence over.

And whilst you may have some nice fancy tools, I don't, all I have as a new user is TPE to guide me. Maybe you expect all new users to carry out significant market research before putting any bids in.

Accordingly I will report every single transfer I sell until you stop making people feel like criminals for getting a nice price for their player and have to self report.

And it seems I will have to contact the GMs every time I want to bid above TPE on a player to get their permission to do so because I am warned on every bid screen that it is against the rules to overbid and BOTH ACCOUNTS MAY BE BANNED. Please explain to me the process I should follow to gain such permission. I don't want to have to keep pulling out of bidwars for fear I will be accused of cheating. Thanks.

Last edited by CorruptCop at 3/4/2010 6:13:02 PM

that I should report it otherwise I am going to be made to suffer for actions I had no influence over.

maybe reporting it yourself makes a better impression, and makes it easier to believe that it isn't planned BUT also with out no self reporting you aren't doomed if they aren't no clear connection(your brother winner of the bidding war etc.)

I have seen many of your posts now, and know that in the majority of cases I would be well served to listen to you.

However the GM_Lord of Doom said this...

In BB there are limitations already, and prety good ones if you ask me.
per player you can not gain a big profit, since then it would be selling over regular prices and you will get a fine. users do not see this, so they might think it works, but no it realy doesn't, if someone sees it and reports it (and chances someone sees it are realy big since the TL is always crowded with interested people) you loose all your profit and risk a fine if you don't report it yourself!

With the greatest of respect, I will have to do what the GM says.

OK I'm a noob but I think I have a pretty good managerial handle on how to run a team and handle financial situation. I agree that it is possible for GM's to rape the market and get more money than they should such as over pricing a player and having a noob buy them or buying many players at low prices and selling them for higher prices but anyone with common sense should be able to avoid being scammed. On players bio pages is shows how much the typical transaction sells for so if your player is typically purchased for 100,000 and you dont put a starting bid price near that and somebody steals him for 10k its your own fault. this is also shown on the page when you are trying to purchase a player, so if a players is worth 10k and you buy him for 100k its also your fault. the game does a good job of preventing people from cheating with the taxes, it isnt the games fault that people are idiots and dont pay attention.
One suggestion that could possibly help would be to limit the number of transactions that a player can make in a certain amount of time. As a new player wit a 300,000 budget one may find it useful to upgrade the crappy team theyve been supplied with but once a team is of decent caliber there is no need to be trading players all the time, other than it can be fun. I find myself completely bored with the game when I dont have a game and cant make transactions. Maybe if the game offered something else to keep GM's active on their days off there would be less day trading. If training were more interactive or something it would give GM's something else to do. Let me know what you think.

I am all for fair play. The problem with selling over TPE is fishing for those new players or idiots. If your player is worth 30k, his tpe is 10000-100000. You put a starting price of 120k on him. Some new player buys him. Not actually knowing what he is doing. He loses 120k, well we can all agree it's a good lesson for him. In a while he will see he overpayd. Now, the problem we have here is the 120k gaining team. If he succeeds he will do it over and over and over again. I have come across a lot of these type of guys in BB. They get an unfair advantage fishing for these type of deals. If the player is worth 30k, the price should be adjusted a bit by GM-s, don't you agree? Perhaps not a fine of 90k is in order but enough to discourage the user to try this kind of fishing again. So with adjusting (fineing) makes this game better, new user get's punished by himself (lesson) and loses 120k instead of 30k, the selling "old dog" get's ~50k for 30k player after a sale of 120k, thus making ok money for the player.