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140518.137 in reply to 140518.136
Date: 5/10/2010 11:20:24 AM
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"3 - The comment about half a player is more a figure of speech (very english I guess). You might say something like that player costs an arm or a leg. Meaning you'd have to sacrifice either one of these to buy the player of your dream. The other way to look at it is mathmatically. You have $12mil in the bank and the average player costs $8mil... you only have enough for 1 and a half players!!"

Lol is all I have to say to that :P
As for number 2, daytrading is one of the best ways to make money quickly and advance in this game. So anyone not doing it is at a disadvantage.

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140518.138 in reply to 140518.137
Date: 5/10/2010 11:53:18 AM
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"3 - The comment about half a player is more a figure of speech (very english I guess). You might say something like that player costs an arm or a leg. Meaning you'd have to sacrifice either one of these to buy the player of your dream. The other way to look at it is mathmatically. You have $12mil in the bank and the average player costs $8mil... you only have enough for 1 and a half players!!"

Lol is all I have to say to that :P
As for number 2, daytrading is one of the best ways to make money quickly and advance in this game. So anyone not doing it is at a disadvantage.


Day trading is a thing of the past.. if you see it happening now then this is on a very minor scale... back in season 3 and 4 - OMG but having said that no-one knew the value of defence and we didnt have Josef Ka's formulas :D Basically back then we were all buying blind. Now most people know (sadly some dont) that a Marvellous JS guy with Atrocious OD and very little else aint really going to cut it. We now have more information to base our valuations on which leads to less opportunistic and speculative sales - taxes too..... Day trading is a thing of the past and if anyone is able to do this successfully these days then hats off.

I still have a dabble every now and then but I am not at all confident that I'll get the bids I want and I now dont want to get lumbered with the players I try to turn around... back in the day you could play anyone in your team and if someone didnt sell (very rare) then you'd only have to come down a touch on your valuation and someone would bite as every week more money was arriving in teams bank accounts than was leaving for wages etc.

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140518.139 in reply to 140518.138
Date: 5/10/2010 12:15:45 PM
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I agree day trading was easier in the pre-taxes time. However, I still think I have made millions of day trading and I have only been playing for a season and a half now, so it can still be done.

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140518.140 in reply to 140518.139
Date: 5/10/2010 12:27:00 PM
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I agree day trading was easier in the pre-taxes time. However, I still think I have made millions of day trading and I have only been playing for a season and a half now, so it can still be done.


Millions????? I cant see any evidence of this on your transfer history - a couple of 100k guys turned around for 200k - (i assume you get 80-85% of the 100k profit?)
Either way its a tough racket for the reasons mentioned before. I try now to make 5-6 trades a season that can net $300-500k without any training and if they dont work out then I'll try add some skills to them and then make them more profitable as the % sell on goes up and if they have 3-4 skill-ups then thats knocking on for $2mil + a season you can generate and include in your overall financial bottom line.

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140518.141 in reply to 140518.140
Date: 5/10/2010 12:51:57 PM
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Elvis Valtemara - Lost 19k
Stamos Adamos - 7k
Eddie Lok - 199k
Hannes Mulhaupt - 41k
Juan Gabriel Gorontiola - 39k
Leslie Phillips - 48k
Illar Roosaare - 198k
Roger Billam - 170k
Douglas Jean - 299k
Alexey Kadrov - 149k
Chagai Mizrachi - 279k
Edgar Roushkolb - 70k
Claudinho Pires Dias - Lost 1k
Christian Wheeler - 3k
Marcin Jaroma - 232k
Jake Hamburger - 16k
Roman Ciborowski - 192k
Camillo Zucca - 65.5k
Árpád Tamási - 13k
Rémi Bertot - 14.1k
Adolfo Trigila - Lost 10k
Enrico Desogus - Lost 1k
Pepe Estornell Campos - 60k
Felix Burnett - 29k
Chung Nguyên - Lost 19k
Edgar Minasayan - Lost 29.5k
Krzysztof Rugała - Lost 1k
Jorge Roche - Lost 1k
Rey Cerdenia - 87.4k
Valery Valiakhmetov - 320k
Kamil Jarnot - 50k
Gyula Fodi - 76.6k
Kurtzio Amenabar - 419.6k
Ilir Kaleci - 106.1k
Branko Matarela - Lost 1k
Marian Uberman - Lost 1k
Attila Kriszt - Lost 1k
Juan Luis Velilla - Lost 1k
Jeffrey Morris - Lost 1k

Total: 3097800

Lets say that 75% of that was profit.
That still means 2323350 dollars profit.
I suppose it isn't millions, but still not bad for the time spent.


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140518.142 in reply to 140518.141
Date: 5/10/2010 1:12:08 PM
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Eddie Lok - 199k - you owned him for more than 3 months.
Roger Billam - 170k - again owned for over 3 months.
Douglas Jean - 299k - owned over 3 months.
Chagai Mizrachi - 279k - owned for 3 months.
Roman Ciborowski - 192k - owned for almost 4 months.
Valery Valiakhmetov - 320k - owned for 5 weeks.

Theres $1.35mil at least which can't be classified as day trades. All but Valery are under 22 and I imagine you improved their skills from the time you bought to the time you sold?

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140518.143 in reply to 140518.142
Date: 5/10/2010 1:17:21 PM
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Valery wasn't trained, and roman Ciborowski wasn't trained (I think he was fairly old but can't remember). But the rest were trained via 2 position training. I still think that falls in to the category of day trading. I'm buying cheap players, training a few pops and selling for more. I suppose it depends on your definition of day trading. I suppose if your definition states that a player cannot be trained and then sold, then I have probably only make 1 million or so from day trading.

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140518.144 in reply to 140518.139
Date: 5/10/2010 1:22:10 PM
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Here are some of my early career favourites.. when the Buzzerbeater $ was more valuable than today!

Salva Gorrochategui Sold 09/11/2007 $ 198 600
Salva Gorrochategui Bought 02/11/2007 $ 66 666

Zhong Shaolong Sold 16/11/2007 $ 549 999
Zhong Shaolong Bought 10/11/2007 $ 325 700

Jimmy Tanguy Sold 26/11/2007 $ 612 000
Jimmy Tanguy Bought 23/11/2007 $ 329 100

Deivid Borrego Sold 14/12/2007 $ 1 250 111 (sold to a BB!)
Deivid Borrego Bought 10/12/2007 $ 666 666


Does anyone remember Ballhuufer from Austria.. now he was the real master!

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140518.145 in reply to 140518.144
Date: 5/10/2010 1:27:11 PM
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Nice work! Too bad I wasn't playing back then! Could've made a fortune! Stupid taxes severely limit my ability to day trade as much as I would like.

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140518.146 in reply to 140518.145
Date: 5/10/2010 1:29:35 PM
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I've just thought if we keep speaking off topic this thread might be closed and we won't have to listen to Kukoc's broken record rant...

So how's the weather where you are?!

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140518.147 in reply to 140518.146
Date: 5/10/2010 1:33:41 PM
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haha weather in Adelaide was quite warm today :P Bit cold now though as it is 3am, how about where you are? :P

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