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Like they say.. if you can't beat them, join them.

But all aussie is not working for me.

Looks like I need to go the international route to be successful. Always seem to be one step behind whitebeard.

also whats with all the wasted CT's this season... there was one earlier season, could'nt remember who, now adam guns versus wombats.

That is why I am liking basically all Aussie but just a touch of international flavour with Olli, Sperbert and Vallo to give me those rare skills sets that you can't get with Aussies.

Last edited by yodabig at 12/25/2012 9:31:10 AM

same here jus try to get an aus big man with wondrous + SB theyre just isnt any cause no1 here trains that way

same here jus try to get an aus big man with wondrous + SB theyre just isnt any cause no1 here trains that way

Well stop complaining about the shortage of these players and put your efforts into training up one of them, for me to buy

lol trained willy onto the u21 team was 1 of the 2 stars of the team that season that made aisan champs game
training my wang 4 the senior team
training the truth 4 the u21 team

think im doing my share 4 the team :)

some1 else can do the big men

woohoo, no2! now for WB to quit and no1 here i come! heheh

world rank #15 to #239.

Is WB that good?

Rest of us are shit!

He really is that good. Also most of the ABBL is only half trying this season. Look at almost any team and you can see a sopt or two they could easily upgrade for minimal cost and be much tougher.

Urmummas is a great example, four guys around $140-190,000 a week and the fifth $87,000. Slam ! is much more extreme, their third best player is $40,000 yet they have a 5-3 record (will be easybeats for a while having their best player injured, their previous second best sold and their current second best is in respectable game shape and just played 99 minutes this week).

Last edited by yodabig at 12/27/2012 9:15:40 PM

Weakness in the ABBL

Is this one of the weakest ABBLs ever? It seems to me that half the league is tanking or taking advantage of the tankers and no-one is willing to take on Whitebeard outside the cup. Take a look at the current salaries.

Total Salaries in Season 22
# Team Players Salary Tot Average Std Dev.
01. Whitebeard (38625) 11 $ 940 512 $ 85 501 $ 66 286
02. Urmummas (196417) 12 $ 857 838 $ 71 487 $ 72 123
03. Pancakes with Jam and Cream (38650) 13 $ 838 088 $ 64 468 $ 79 871
04. Black Label Society (38624) 14 $ 789 510 $ 56 394 $ 52 941
05. Awesome^.- (38856) 14 $ 742 943 $ 53 067 $ 54 742
06. Monkey Business (196113) 10 $ 740 010 $ 74 001 $ 60 993
07. Koopasaurus (196370) 14 $ 707 863 $ 50 562 $ 46 654
08. Aussie Pride (196262) 15 $ 696 990 $ 46 466 $ 48 569
09. Chumunga (38753) 12 $ 647 838 $ 53 987 $ 51 557
10. Chelsea Seagulls (196950) 15 $ 642 473 $ 42 832 $ 46 180
11. Bell Park SuperCats (38757) 13 $ 641 687 $ 49 361 $ 61 364
12. Guanzheng Goldfish (38642) 14 $ 517 018 $ 36 930 $ 32 719
13. Slam ! (196147) 9 $ 448 948 $ 49 883 $ 71 134
Player Salaries Floor: $ 392 446
14. adams guns (196228) 10 $ 392 550 $ 39 255 $ 48 189
15. West Island Tigers (38893) 12 $ 390 710 $ 32 559 $ 34 145
16. Lewisham Wombats (38600) 15 $ 326 694 $ 21 780 $ 48 273

Three teams at the salary floor and Slam ! and the Goldfish aren't far off it. That is four of the eight Great 8 teams deciding it isn't worth trying to compete and even Koop and I aren't that high. Take out Whitebeard and the 4/4 Urmummas who have the 2nd highest salaries and the 9th best record and then the next four highest salaries are all in the Big 8 where I guess at least they feel like at least they can get a trophy and the cash cow of finals games.

I shudder to think how much the guns, Tigers and Wombats are making each week, oh thats right I remember, about $500,000 a week! I may have the 4th best record in the ABBL but making just $60,000 a week is a pathetic reward. Shouldn't those that do well get richer?

If I am making $60,000 a week how do teams with $200,000 - $300,000 a week greater salaries survive?

PS: I think last week was a bad week, the fans stayed right away from the BLS game. The previous profits were $159,000, $160,000, $149,000, $170,000 etc. The BLS game was after the away loss to Whitebeard, so naturally after an away loss to Whitebeard thousands of fans lose interest in my team and I have an empty arena, would happen to the Lakers too right?

Last edited by yodabig at 12/27/2012 9:32:38 PM

500K a week? Considering with the salary floor, my wages are only around 200K lower than yours, plus my attendance is crap, and I am forking out a fair bit for staff salaries, that is a gross overexaggeration. This season isn't about making cash for me, just happy training the young uns.

Short answer is no, it is actually a fairly strong season. It will be interesting to see how teams like Pancakes and BLS go against Whitebeard - that will be the true test.

There are obviously some teams who could get alot stronger, but frankly, its been like that for many seasons - think back a few seasons ago and you are looking at a fairly similar story - me and Whitebeard challenging, then a bunch of teams tanking, taking advantage of tankers, or going for 5th.

And greater attandance follows winning - its not that hard to make a profit with 800K+ salaries, because if you are any good, you should be winning games and raking in attendance money - even if your merchandise is crap.

To be honest, as effectively an outsider this season, there seems to be quite a few teams who really should be biting the bullet, and getting above 800K salary to become a true contender (and that's what it takes - unless your team is amazingly built you ain't winning the ABBL with sub 750K salaries). There are alot of teams who have been drifting between 600K-700K salaries for a number of seasons, but seem what whatever reason unwilling to spend the dough to become contenders. In the meantime, you are letting Whitebeard kick your buts and rack up a crapload of merch and attendance cash