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New inside zone or fix 2-3.

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From: Marot

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Date: 5/17/2011 2:58:14 PM
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You can't pay an inside player with IS 17-18, ID 18 and RE 16-17 that's lot of salary, 2 players like this is insane.

What this kind of teams did and are doing is to invest the training in the outside players. As I said they train lot of JS&1n1on SF-PF so apart from having IS around 15-17 on the PF-C, they can have a PG-SG with IS around 8-10 and maybe the SF over 10. Also this kind of teams have huge OD so the ID raised as secundary.

And this teams that improved the inside players&outside IS, but also driving&JS are better than a team that just focused on having nice inside skills like the ones you suggested.

It's the most common training on Spain 1n1&JS in SF-PF.

Last edited by Marot at 5/17/2011 3:03:08 PM

From: Marot

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Date: 5/17/2011 3:41:32 PM
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This are just some offensive inside teams, don't change my words... I also know teams that have players with ID over 15. I know from 1 team that has the C with ID 20 and PF ID 17, both having nice SB(since that players trained lot of ID) that prefers to play m2m than 2-3. If with that players you can't perform a 2-3...

Last edited by Marot at 5/17/2011 3:46:48 PM

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Date: 5/17/2011 4:40:34 PM
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Canicas inside players have good ID-SB, but they aren't good enough to play a 2-3, he also has a really good SF.

I would like to hear why this team is doing so poor in a 2-3, leaving the others players with;

SF* 8-12 FG, 1-3 3FG
C 8-18 FG
PF 7-10 FG
PG 7-13 FG

Overall 41-77 FG, 3-8 3FG

Ah, they played on Canicas home and the game shapes were similar for both teams.



That's unreal, please fix 2-3, but don't confuse more managers saying they haven't good teams to perform 2-3(lack of ID-SB), when Canicas is by far good enough to perform a 2-3.

Thanks.


From: Marot

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181900.145 in reply to 181900.143
Date: 5/17/2011 6:31:11 PM
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Sorry, i dind't know that offensive flow helps to defend in the 2-3, thanks for your brilliant opinion. Please don't manipulate my words, 1 thing is his attack, but the other thing is the defense.

And please a bit of respect for that team, he is in first division from a 5500k community managers, so a little bit he knows about this game.

Last edited by Marot at 5/17/2011 6:33:33 PM

From: profit007

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181900.146 in reply to 181900.141
Date: 5/17/2011 7:12:58 PM
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That's unreal, please fix 2-3, but don't confuse more managers saying they haven't good teams to perform 2-3(lack of ID-SB), when Canicas is by far good enough to perform a 2-3.

Thanks.



Confuse? When BB introduced new GE people were saying that LI is flawed, it's not working and then BB actually were teaching how LI works and people started to use different training patterns and LI worked. Now as I remember BB said specifically that SB is major factor in 2-3 zone but I am guessing BB is not talking about level 7-8 SB to beat level 20 IS they are probably talking about SB that can actually match the level of opponents IS and how often do you see C with level 20 SB? BB also stated that OD for C-PF position is needed for preventing passes. So I don't believe BB is confusing us but telling what skills are needed to make 2-3 zone work but people choose not to train SB because of its price and it's very time consuming to train OD for C-PFs. So I don't think is canicas is "good enough" for 2-3 zone according to notes that BB gave us about 2-3 zone.

Last edited by profit007 at 5/17/2011 7:19:56 PM

From: CrazyEye

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Date: 5/17/2011 10:39:15 PM
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for things like this we say 2-3 is a bad decission, cause your players are matched similar than M2M but with poor results

in a zone, poor defenders always have less problems, thats the reason cause in nba it was not permitted


if you use weak defenders they won't necessary perform better in a Zone, a Zone helps to compensate atletical missmatches but makes other things tougher to defend. And defense is not just athletic. So generally it is good for different type of players.

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