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i think you just won my vote here sir,

Oriole- I have not seen you be very active on the NT and U21 game discussions for awhile. I understand this does not mean you are not qualified, as I felt pretty much like you over the past seasons and wasn't very active on discussions until taking over as NT manager. What can we expect from you on the forums should you win this election?

Just browsing the forum, no one has been very active at all this season with U21 discussions sans in the meta-scouting threads. I'll make a weekly thread, I'll post the team updates, and tell everyone what I'm thinking. If they agree then great. If they have some minor tweaks they want then we'll talk through them. I already have the list of all the U21 scouts, so that's easy to coordinate.

I haven't been posting much but that doesn't mean I'm incapable of it.

I haven't been posting much but that doesn't mean I'm incapable of it.

How has the recovery from having Otto Reedy's babies gone, and are any of them available in the upcoming draft?

Hey, I just found this area of forums after another manager asked me some things about U-21. I don't know if this is the right place to ask this question, but here goes ... relocate it if necessary.

I scored a Hall of Fame potential Center in the recent draft. I don't have a great trainer so if I kept him he would go to waste. Therefore, I'm going to put him on the Transfer Market. Is there a time that would be most convenient for a US manager to pick him up and train him for the National Teams?

Later in the evening for U.S.; early afternoon for the Euros.

If he's talented American managers will attempt to buy him regardless of when he's put up.

It's frustrating! You'd think with him being 6'1'' and his super model 5'11'' wife they'd have offspring taller than 5'6'' with faces that wouldn't crash cars when put on a billboard next to the highway.

Last edited by oriolekid at 2/18/2016 4:08:01 PM

The problem that i have with tracking such data on trainees tends to be sample size and consistency of data when comparing it to the competition.

Let's say player A and player B have very similar ratings as bigs with just ok secondaries (something close to 4/4/4/4/4/4 11/10/7/10). If player B plays in the US in division 4, then he's going to have games where he plays against players that are just decent and times where he is going to play against a promotion threat or a D.II cup opponent. Analyzing things too much based off of team performances does not paint a clear enough picture to surmise a tendency. Another issue with club team play is if the other guy, Player A, is in the top league in France. On top of being corrupted and unusable (lame attempt at a joke, regret hit me as i was typing it), his stats are not going to be comparable to player B's. The only usable information from these players are that Player B will perform like that against similarly talented teams (underwhelming micros), and player A will perform like that against similarly talented teams (Italy, France, Spain, major powers). On top of differences in powers, each additional game analyzed brings more uncertainty.

I would say that the analysis that i would bring in statistically would only be on the front of the correlation between SB and rebounding performance on top of what was already there with ID and SB comparisons. It's been mentioned by Tetra and Oriolekid, but to reiterate our findings (Tetra, myself, EPK, tough, DcM, etc from the offsite chats of the past): there is a strong possibility that SB might have improved to the point where it's worth a test at the u21 level as it will not cost us in rebounding as much as expected, and appears to improve the rating performance in conjunction with higher ID.

Later in the evening for U.S.; early afternoon for the Euros.

If he's talented American managers will attempt to buy him regardless of when he's put up.

Thanks.

US managers can pick him up Sunday afternoon. Euro managers can pick him up Sunday evening.

Uh, yea I know you can't resign but if you forfeit a big big game I would just want to resign at that moment. Then again every game on the U21 scale is crucial.

That being said, I won't take the risk to go bot just because a mistake happens. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone is human. If you mess up it doesn't mean you should quit and pout. Find other ways to help the NT/U21 out. (scouting, gameplanning, getting word out, training a player, etc.)

You can still be very productive at any or all of those tasks.

Fellow Americans, don't be afraid to step out of your comfort zones and try new ideas or builds. I want to push upon you something new, at least for the U.S., and focus on lots of 1v1f and defense. I want to implement a new style of training into our U21 prospects. Change is necessary. Here are my thoughts...

Inside guard idea:

Train 1v1f and OD until 21 For a guard prospect that has decent PS and JR already, this would be great. I love PS, but at the U21 lvl not much should be needed as long as you have good HN/DV; my starting guard lineup in the NBBA finals -- Meek (10 PS) and Isom (9 PS). Personally, I would love more passing; however, If I can get away with lower passing for guards at a D1 lvl, we'd be OK with less passing at the U21 lvl for an inside build. Also, I would like to do the same with SFs: Lots of 1v1f and OD/ID - less attention to PS/RB/JR, remember, you can address these skills at age 22. For our bigs, I was thinking aim for 12 RB, and pound 1v1f and ID

Again, I would like to implement this new style of training for all our prospects. This is a bold direction for the US U21 team, a direction I'm willing to guide us in. And it wouldn't stop at the U21 lvl, I would like to continue to guide our prospects all the way to the NT -- after the age of 21 we would start to round out these builds, focusing on a more diverse skill set; Player builds I already have in place.