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277748.139 in reply to 277748.138
Date: 4/17/2016 7:15:29 PM
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...as it clearly goes against the rules in the forums.
Heh heh, it would be interesting to try to find such a "rule." Then everyone could see how vague and subjective it is.

But just so you know, even if you just discuss the process and not any decision, they may delete your post. No talking about specifics allowed in the open forums.

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Date: 4/18/2016 4:30:09 AM
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In the past when I had issue with the GMs I said like this-

WHy do BBs not spend money for better staff.

To attack staff direclty is BS to me. They are volunteers.


I admire your new found love for the BB-staff, I would like to share it to a certain degree, as the involvement of Ryan has been really a huge win-win for both users and the owners.

If something is critique-worthy, I still will adress it though. To me there is no difference between paid staff and volunteers. I have elaborated on this in the past, so talking about it again is useless imo.

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277748.143 in reply to 277748.138
Date: 4/18/2016 7:30:13 AM
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If you do post about it you should be ready to see your post being deleted right away as it clearly goes against the rules in the forums.

My point is not that it isn't against the rules but that it should not be. As I said I should be allowed to talk about it, I did not say that I would talk about it.

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277748.144 in reply to 277748.137
Date: 4/18/2016 7:35:30 AM
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What a view you have of the moderation...

Nice of you to bold one part and leave pale the part where I say I don't think they're all over the edge. I could show you the threads I'm referring to, but you'd have to change the rules to allow me to do that.

Perhaps though you remember recently replying to me despite going on to say you hadn't bothered to read my post? I can discuss that one since it was not a matter of discipline. Since you bolded where I said "I think they consistently read single posts out of context and act accordingly" I'll rephrase it slightly.

I know for a fact GMs sometimes read single posts out of context and act accordingly because one, I have seen it, and two, I have been the victim of an onslaught from a bunch of GMs supporting their colleague. Or fellow volunteer if you prefer.

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Date: 4/18/2016 7:36:34 AM
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In the past when I had issue with the GMs I said like this-

WHy do BBs not spend money for better staff.

To attack staff direclty is BS to me. They are volunteers.


I admire your new found love for the BB-staff, I would like to share it to a certain degree, as the involvement of Ryan has been really a huge win-win for both users and the owners.

If something is critique-worthy, I still will adress it though. To me there is no difference between paid staff and volunteers. I have elaborated on this in the past, so talking about it again is useless imo.

Completely agree.

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277748.147 in reply to 277748.139
Date: 4/18/2016 10:03:28 AM
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...as it clearly goes against the rules in the forums.
Heh heh, it would be interesting to try to find such a "rule." Then everyone could see how vague and subjective it is.

But just so you know, even if you just discuss the process and not any decision, they may delete your post. No talking about specifics allowed in the open forums.


If you have interest in learning the rules of the game:
(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/rules.aspx?nav=Foru...)
(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/rules.aspx?nav=Rule...)
(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/termsOfService.aspx)

If you merely want to know the specific rule about staff discussions, from the forum rules, in the section of posts not permitted:
- Discussing staff decisions (BBs/GMs/Mods). Please e-mail appeals@buzzerbeater.com with your complaint.


If you merely want to know how far or how many times you can cross the line, we can't help you with that.

[edit: And now that I've read perpete's post, I agree. I don't see any reason for me to post in this thread further either].

Last edited by GM-hrudey at 4/18/2016 10:05:18 AM

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277748.148 in reply to 277748.147
Date: 4/18/2016 12:37:18 PM
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Well, as the officials storm off, rather chidlishly slamming the door on discussion, quoting the rules as they go, I have this to say.

When someone is telling you that in their opinion, (which is still allowed here), that a rule is wrong, there is absolutely no point in quoting them the rule that they think, in their opinion, is wrong.

Obviously I'm stating that for the popcorn eaters, since officialdom has left the stage.

PS:
Yes, it's forbidden to discuss about GM decisions on the forum, because 1) regarding moderation decision, that would just be threads lasting for weeks like this one with diverging opinions, 2) regarding cheating, the less information cheaters can get, the more chance we have to catch them.

Except I'm not talking about cheating, nor does a process whereby people can talk about decisions need to be one that goes on for weeks. Though I agree its very difficult to get a response from a GM that actually involves them answering more than one point at a time because they like to cherry pick the part they can answer sarcastically or wittily and ignore anything that involves some thought. Or perish the thought, further discussion.

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