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Yes, it was a disappointment for this game :/
GG Moneta !

BTW, I can see that almost all my games are very tied (less than 10 pts and less than 5 pts).

Yes, that´s remarkable how even many of your matches have been - 4 out of 10 of your Season 2 games have been decided by 3 points or less (and your record from those is 1 win and 3 losses).

During Season 1 you had 4 matches which were decided by 5 points or less (record 2W-2L), so you´re ahead of schedule this season and will possibly make new record for close games for your team. ;)

I can only hope our match on Round 14 will be even as well, and I have a feeling it could be very important for both teams in terms of Regular Season league table position, a.k.a. Official Regular Season Rankings (ORSR) for Playoffs...
Not that I would necessarily or even likely be able to surpass you in the league table (by ending up having same W-L record than you and possibly/theoretically winning our S2 meeting), but every added win in so far quite difficult season (for me) will be important.

League table updated to reflect situation after Round 12 of play.

What a round we had last Friday, lots of exciting matches! Many would be worth writing a short review (and thank you LennuK. and demars for doing so on another Official Thread, it's always a joy to read managers writing about their matches and teams!
I think that must have been one of the most interesting rounds of the Season 2, and we definitely are in a very decisive time of the year as teams are fighting for optimal positions for the season. Sometimes as little as 1 or 2 games that you're able (or aren't able) to turn around to your advantage can make or break the season.

LennuK. for instance had another close loss of the season on Round 11, and without those two close losses BC Eos would be at 5W-7L, and would currently have a firm grasp at the seat in Playoffs.

demars's luck (perhaps that's a wrong way to put it, but I hope you understand my point in the way it's meant to be said) on the other hand turned into a better direction with an overtime win, after having lost 3 out of 4 close matches (decided by 3 points or less). Besides, meetings between teams from same countries always have some extra excitement built into them.

Another very interesting match between teams fighting for similar league positions was TRO vs. FRE, in which TRO was able to find first win of the season, while simultaneously keeping FRE at 2 wins - it's perfectly possible, that result of this match will eventually determine which one of these two teams will be ranked higher on Season 2 Official Regular Season Rankings (ORSR) if teams will end up in similar amount of victories at the end of Regular Season, but again, anything can still happen.

Also, another exciting meeting between strong, new-to-HGL teams KKS and HB, in which HB was able to pull off a W and continue their impressive season, now standing at 10W-2L and dropping KKS to (still of course respectable) 7W-5L.

With 9 point win RAJ was able to continue their (currently second longest) 6 win winning streak, and grapping strongly to 4th position in HGL (now at 9W-3L), which would guarantee them to skip First Round of Playoffs. They will still face KKS (7-5), VPO (12-0) and LMS (4W-8L, but fighting fiercely from a Playoff spot so they definitely won't be giving anything free for anyone) though, so they need to show their A-game for the rest of the RS as well, especially as WMO just behind them (at 8W-4L) won this season's RAJ-WMO Regular Season meeting and will surpass RAJ if they´d be tied in wins.

Again, I could continue this interesting end-of-Regular Season speculation on and on (and make further analysis on many Round 11 matches as that provided us many interesting matches), but I'm afraid this must suffice for now due the lack of time.

Last edited by Wagner at 8/24/2025 6:18:49 AM

Following HGL managers in the listing below, please start filling your own box score posts (as already requested in this earlier post: (327516.122)) now, as some posts seem to have been abandoned after creation.

As you likely remember, this is a HGL requirement to fill scores of played matches to your own box score posts during Regular Season, after matches have been played.
As mentioned, it is easy to find our box score post following link for example in this post: (327517.4).


Teams (in no special order) from which actions are required (that haven't even started updating post or have updated it very long time ago):

- Freccia Azzurra
- Hårdboll
- Lielupes Melnās Sirdis
- Club Trouville
- Virtus Portici

Hey, just letting everyone know that I just took the opportunity and bought back a previously sold draftee Taavi Ummelas (53184526) with a salary of 10230$. That improves my top-8 salary by a little bit to 251K and raises the average age of my top-8 to 23,8y.

Thanks again for information, LennuK.

Due to this, I've now finally updated informative participating teams-listings on both Official Threads, and updated 'Salary benefit and transfers'-post here: (327516.4).

We are out of room (character limitation seriously reached), so no more transfers allowed on Season 2! ;)
I'm just kidding of course, but that just describes how much more content there is in that post compared to HGL Season 1.

I have kept also original 'start of the season 2'-salary information in those team information-posts, as I think it would be best to use that value if and when we calculate Top8 salary and age changes from S2 to S3 at the beginning of S3 (and we can then include for example * or something after a team name, if the salary change is partly due to transfers during previous season, and not only due to training/declining development of players).

Last edited by Wagner at 8/24/2025 8:39:38 AM

I´m totally aware that this is almost 100% off-topic, but....
as FIBA Basketball European Championships is just behind the corner, I think it would be interesting thought/question to all current "HGL countries", that what kind of expectations do you have for your real national teams?
And to take a look at the question from slightly another angle/view, I wonder which country (that has representation in HGL currently) has got the highest success expectations for their national team in European Championships? :)

Last edited by Wagner at 8/24/2025 9:36:02 AM

France, who else ?


:o

France, who else ?


:o

Finland, anyone? ;)
But in all honesty, of course if our countries would meet during playoffs, yours would be a significant favorite.

However, what I like in this current tournament format, is that it's a 'one match decides it all'-playoff format, and for example Poland was able to shock everyone previously by ending 4th in the whole Championship competition (which, in addition to many other Polish people, must have been a great moment of joy for Rajdersi's Paul George!).

Last edited by Wagner at 8/24/2025 10:19:13 AM

Sure, I would be happy to provide these statistics for the beginning of the next season and then only use the starting salary from this season

We just had our main center and arguably one of the most important players ruled out from the championship due to injury, which really severs our chances get really far. I would hope that we come through the group, although we have several really good nations on the group, especially Serbia and Latvia. So to summarize, getting through the group, and maybe advancing from the next round as well, would be my personal expectations

yeah it was shock for everyone
this time we might be not that lucky

I want to report one change in my roster.
(52882440) was sold so:
new top8 salary is 331967$ (old was 342193$) -please check that

Why did I sell him? I need to cut expenses, other perimeter players have simillar level so 26k$ saved each week.
In important games like BBM,HGL he didnt reached top8 squad so....

Sure, I would be happy to provide these statistics for the beginning of the next season and then only use the starting salary from this season

Thanks very much LennuK., I'm very glad to hear that. Not only because it takes away some of the workload, but also because it's nice to see some managers might be willing to help by doing some work that serves the whole HGL community. :)

As for using asterisks (after a team name if transfers have taken place during previous season, which data is used in next seasons' calculations) to differentiate teams from teams whose salary development (up or down) has happened "organically", it also serves teams who have sold players.

EDIT: For example in Rajdersi's case here, this selling of a player would otherwise be seem as a negative TOP8-salary development (as we are using values from beginning of each season), but now if/as we will use some kind of marking system (such an asterisk after a dollar value on the comparison table), we can easily see just by looking at that table if that salary development (again, positive or negative) is due to any transfers (purchases, or sold or fired players) during last season.

Yes, even that is not perfect nor totally simple solution, as
A) that asterisk itself wouldn't even reveal if team would've gained or lost salary due to transfer(s), and
B) sometimes players that are out of top8 are being sold/fired, and then it wouldn't even affect top8-salaries...should team still be marked with asterisk if they sell/fire outside of top8, and if not, what kind of system should be developed to ensure only teams with top8-salary transfers would be marked (as memorizing these kind of things afterwards proves to be challenging)... Not your headache of course, but just a small example of it that sometimes easy things can be made difficult. ;)

Last edited by Wagner at 8/25/2025 7:42:02 AM