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I'm not going to respond to most of these comments because I want to let the debate flow without outside influences. However, I do think I should mention a couple of things:

1. Draft = random
2. Money invested are wasted

Randomness does not imply that investing is a mistake. You should bet with me on a coin flip if I give you 2:1 odds, but you should not bet with me on a coin flip if I give you 1:2 odds. In the case of the draft, it is more complicated because whether your investment is wise probably depends upon the investments of the other people in your league and on your league finish. It is very likely that the correct amount for most teams to spend on the draft is neither $0 nor $40k/week.

It depend from the rate of randomness...I choose the first player in my draft list this year,investing a decent amount of money in the year(10/k week),and i picked up a 19years old with potential sixth man.Now,I'm not pretending to have a players with 7k salary and potential all stime great every year,but with the first choice,I'd like to have at least a decent player for my team
If you put the 19years players in the draft,you should make him a little bit stronger than the 18years old,so also if they will be disadvantaged from having one seson less than the other in their future training,they could be useful from the first moment.
i don't think this reasoning is out from the world...

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 3/27/2010 7:55:47 AM

the only 5 ball with potential that i see was a 19years old center that i put in the fifth place in the list,if i remember well(and i was looking for a guard in the draft).And i see eight or nine players with five ball rating...What should i do in that situation?
My proposal will at least make the random less randomic,if i pick up a five ball,also if old and with low potential,had to be at least useful from the first moment,also if only for the cup

What you are talking about?
I hat the eleventh pick in the draf,but also if I had the first pick,surely I will not spend 40k/week for the draft,because if I'm sure to pick every player I want in the list,spending less for week(10-20K) is quite enough to see good players and to pick them
And the reasoning is more general than a mere question_first-second pick
I have no interest to train him in the future,because he will have few value for his skills because of his potential and his age...and I'm talking about a 5 ball skill rating,if you think that the other players of the draft should be worse than him,you had to think about the fact that the main part of the players of the draft are useless

Have you read my previous posts?I picked up a sixth man potential,a 19 years old sixth man potential it's completely useless nowadays...but if i pick up a 5 ball star rating,i expected to have at least a useful player,also if he is old and has low potential,your example shows thatthe draft has to be less randomatic to be an enjoyable part of this game

It's out of any sense that a five ball rating can go from "the future best player in the BB world" to "a player that you have to fire one minute after the draft"

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 3/27/2010 9:32:35 AM

I did some research on the draft. From what I found out was that
5* Rating grantees salary of 3,7k+
which for me is pretty much the lowest trainable salary. Below that, in most of the cases you can just fire the guy (unless he has 9, 10 potential and the right hight).

With the potential balls it seems it more or less like this:
5* 10, 9,
4* 8, 7
3* 6, 5
2* 4, 3
1* 2, 1, 0

Player with a 3* potential is a decent choice for guards unless u are in the top 2 divisions of your country. 4* is sufficient for inside players. I've trained guards with star potential. I used most of the time 2 position training and in most cases by the time the guy reaches his potential he is already 23 years old and not worth training. The rush for potential is a little bit exaggerated and overpriced. Players with 9-10 potential are in most cases needed only in the top 2 divisions or for those people that want to have a player on the NT or U21 team. All of my trainees came from the draft. Some drafts were awful but I can blame the system itself as I've never had a pick better than 12th. In season 10 draft in my league there where 5 guys with salary 4k+ of who only one was 18 with a decent potential. In this draft we had 11 guys with 4k+ salary of who 4 had salary of 5,5k+. I'm not gonna complain about that distribution. After all not every draft in NBA has brought superstars into the game.

The thing I would change in draft is that we receive as many points as we have paid for and we "discover" each player and decide if we want to waste second point to get his potential or not. In that manner we could only blame our luck in case we wasted all of our points on trainable guys. Also I agree that the 19 year olds should be given a bit higher skill sets since thats why they stayed in college one year longer.

I think that with that 2 modifications the draft system would be much better.

5 stars for match rating...sigh