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From: SharkBoy

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16068.14 in reply to 16068.13
Date: 3/14/2008 4:01:10 AM
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YOU GUYS WHO SHARED HERE REALLY MAKES IT SO INSPIRING!

reading this makes one spirit or my spirit lighten up!

just wanna say it to those who took time in sharing!

From: Servier

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Date: 3/14/2008 5:36:03 AM
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I guess you're right. Like I said before, my team wasn't ready for a higher division yet. And last season I didn't spend much on Scouting (you know, newbie) , so my draft wasn't that good. Plus the fact that I still don't really have a full proof training program yet, maybe you have some idea's for that......

From: achan

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Date: 3/14/2008 9:53:34 AM
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Well, I 've played a few manager games so I sort of already had a feel for this sort of stuff. For training, you want to get some good, young prospects. I don't know how much money you have, but you'll want to sell all your older useless players and instead buy the maximum number of prospects you can train. You can train big men or train guards--it's up to you. I'd say training big men is easier since there are less skills to train but I think training guards is more profitable.

From: Pallu

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Date: 3/14/2008 11:44:38 AM
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. And i am happy to see that there are not so many "manage your team better" answers in here so far.

I do not regard daytraders as a main obstacle in BB. (In case you check my tranfer history, I made a lot of trades and some profit, but only very little from some bad daytrade attempts. I am just not smart enough for that. The profit stems 80% from selling trainees.) (EDIT: ~ 3% from daytrade attempts...)

Why I find your post so tempting is because you describe problems of being in a higher division. I feel the same about BB like you, fascination and frustration mingle, but I was put in a low division and it is no fun down here either.

Most managers trying to "help" a division IV. noob cannot even imagine how little money we have down here. I average 75k spectator income (after 1 1/2 seasons) and 9k merchandising. I train hard and therefore my trainees have wages of 4-8k, this will probably double next week. If I want some spectators to come and have a chance of promotion I need 60-75k wages (before update). Staff and scouting round it up and the TV games merely cover the losses.

That's fine, but trainees get better and ask for more wages, so basically without trading/selling the losses get bigger by time. Or you simply stop training.

I understand that BBs artificially want to increase the differences between the divisions. But it's enormously frustrating, if you compare yourself with teams that started the same time but were put in higher divisions. Good to know you have your problems up there as well... ;-)

I like the new changes, because randomized losses against BOTs/weak teams made it even harder. We will see.

I hope you can enjoy your time in div. II, I would be happy to swop divisions with you...
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All the best!

Edit: some spelling

Last edited by Pallu at 3/14/2008 1:29:28 PM

From: packer_22

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Date: 3/14/2008 8:38:43 PM
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I started out just like you in IV. I bought some medicore trainees, and started training. I went into the red for a while, but now am in first place in II.2 after 2 seasons. (Having started in Season 2). My trainees are all approaching prominent and I am satisfied. I recomend buying trainees after the draft because there will be a huge surplus. My wages are 53k. I average 100k spectator income and only get 11k merchandising. There is so much parity, if you play your cards right, will can be in II, like me. (although I was incredibly lucky).

Pallu: Yes, I can imagine how little you get paid down there, but if your players around 8k salary, it sounds like it might be the year you promote!

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Date: 3/18/2008 10:26:20 PM
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When you say trainees, do you mean rookie players? I've been on for two days now and I nam as green as one can get. Right now I'm just trying to improve my roster by adding (bidding with my fingers crossed) a few quality players with the paltry 300k I was given. Maybe it's the noob jitters, but it seems I have a team full of scrubs.

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Date: 3/19/2008 1:08:06 PM
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trainees are essentially players of the ages between 18-21 (at least I think so). 18 and 19 year olds are the best ones to have since you can train them quickly and sell them for a good bit of money.

From: achan

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Date: 3/19/2008 10:46:34 PM
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I would say just try to buy good 18 yr olds that have pretty well balanced skills. There's not much point in trying to improve your roster as having a well-trained trainee will actually help your chances of winning much more than adding some of the vets you can find on the market now (who are expensive and not that good).

I would try to get an 18 yr old with about 3.5 k salary with good skill levels in the skills that you want for that position. That should cost less than 50k each (I think).

From: Plotts

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16068.22 in reply to 16068.21
Date: 3/20/2008 6:14:49 PM
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Thanks for the help. Those are solid points I'm glad i know now and not three weeks from now. One last Q though...concerning the arena and economy. It seems like the majority of your net income will come from selling young players, if so, and since the players I have now couldn't sell themselves to Sauron. Should i try to maximize profits from attendance and cut corners where ever I can in player salaries until I can get some young talent? Thanks again.